Thanks for the reply's ranch and savage. I had let this thread get way down the page. I am glad to see it still gets some interest. Started shopping for a 444 had the money set asside. my wife graduated nursing school a few monthes ago. and she needed money to take a capland course to prepare her for the state nursing exams. She needed to pass more then I needed a new rifle.If I drew a bear tage this year I would be bumed. I didn't so there is no rush. I mainly live vicariously through most of you guys anyway. Dreaming of the day when I can have a little more nose, and i don't need so much dust from the grind stone. thank again for the input


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