Thanks for the reply. Frankly, I've never owned a 'one ragged hole' gun in my life. Oddly, all my Swedes don't do it, but Ive never been an iron sighter. The best I've ever shot one of my Swedes is with a Mojo sight. Of all the guns I own my old Mark X 7mm moose gun is the only MOA I own. Only MOA, with me behind it anyway!