This is a great post an reinforces why I dont use the standard cup and core bullet to hunt with. I have seen and been involved in the taking of well over 100 head of big game with the Nosler Partition. At last count I had 6 recovered bullets, all but a couple (lead and front end seperation)were intact. I see way too many bullets here that should "not" be used for hunting especially heavy game like elk. Premimum bullets such as the PT, the Swift A frame, the Accubond and numerous others will get the job done right. Most anything including a large rock launched at moderate velocities will "kill" game. But the real object is not to "kill" it. The object is to kill it cleanly and recover the animal in time to utilize the meat. I want a hole in both sides and blood pouring out of the back side, not mush and bullet fragments in the middle. My .02