>50 cal Knoght American with a 1x T/C Hawken Hunter scope 70 gr. 3f Triple 7 lit by #11 caps MMP black sabot and a Winchester 230 gr jhp( read that flying ashtray).1500 fps over my F1 Chrony and they expand to nearly 1 inch and they dont suffer jacket/core seperation. My 15 year old daughter will use her Tradirions Tracker with 4x Redfield and a T/C cheap shot sabot over 40 of 3f 777 lit by musket caps.1300 fps a very nice VERY deadly load out to 100 yards or so.
