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Death Trap notes the inability of the Sherman to face the larger Tigers and their 88s. It was superior or par to Panzers. The delay in the Pershing was bad, no doubt, but not Patton that did that. The Pershing was not available when the US entered the war, its prototype, the T20, didn't appear until 1942.
I disagree. My source said Eisehhower left the final decision to Patton. Mid 1944 was plenty of time to get production up to anticipated needed levels. Shermans didn't face just Tigers and 88s. McNair may have been just as responsible, given the logistical problems. The M-26 handled the Panthers and Tigers fine, and handled the T-34 fine in Korea. Production could have been going in mid-43, and we would have been well-stocked by June '44. Would have saved a lot of lives.
Murphy was an optimist.
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