"quite frankly its hardwired into the human condition with no way to escape it"

In other words, a combination of environment and genetics?

Either way, I agree with you rattler. Those that wanna are gonna and those that don't won't.

As for being for it or against it, I don't know. What I do know is, what we are doing now isn't working. Time to think outside the box and get this problem fixed.

Call me a hardazz if you want, but its past time to start taking care of ourselves and quit worrying about others(on all fronts).