Good thread, I am reading that the experience of others pretty much parallels my my own.I do most of my waterfowling on a small creek outside of town. In the past 4 years I have found that more is not allways better. Imp cyl and mod on the Red Label 12 get most of the action. I find that 3's give me cleaner kills past 30 yds. If they are in your face because of a NW wind the 1 1/16oz 2 3/4" Kent load really works well for me. Out to 40 yds though the 2's in the same load are better, wish Kent would pull their head outta their ass and put 3's in that load. I use it alot in an older 2 3/4" Wingmaster with a Imp cyl choke. Most of my 3" guns use 3" 1 1/8oz loads at over 1500 fps well in 2's.When it comes to steel loads I just can't say brand Y is better than brand x cause none of them are all that good. Kent tungsten Matrix and Heavy -Shot are great though in premium non-toxics. Magnum man
