Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Winchester Collectors Caliber scarcity in Pre-64 Winchester Model 70

I can tell you that there was ONE 25 Souper ( 25/308 ) Made because I had it in my hands and it had a Winchester Letter of Documentation . Somewhere in the dim , dark past I read that the 7.65 MM and 9X57 MM were produced in the low double Digits . Don't hold me to this but I think like maybe 30 or less . I have also seen and held these but cannot verify they were "real". The prices were beyond what I could afford at the time . Almost all of the original 7.65s and 9X57s , were originally shipped to Europe .How many made it back ...who knows ? Some years ago , the Winchester rolling Dies which imprint the Caliber were purchased by a private party . I've talked to some high end Dealers who told me that even the Boxes and Hang tags have been faked on some of these super rare Pre 64s . I've seen plenty of Pre 64s , but don't feel confident anymore of really telling which of the super rare ones are real , however , if I found one at a great price , I would'nt pass it up .