I use #12 shot in .38 or .357 cases and the CCI capsules. For powder, I use 3.0 gr of Titegroup. #12 shot works much better. My son has dropped rattlers DRT with barely a wiggle with a head shot, even from .22 crimped shotshells. In a .44 or .45, there is really quite a bit of #12 in each load. In the .44 or .45, I use 4.5 gr of TItegroup under the capsule.
