a rifle is valued at what someones willing to pay for it, if you are not willing to pay what the seller is asking, send a pm with an offer, it is then his choice to either sell it or not, period, end of story. being a dikk, a knowitall, and an as%hole to all who regularly sell on here will do nothing more than get you put on their ignore list, of which you are ow on mine. Matter of fact I would not sell you something if you offered 2x the asking price because you are a douche. lenny


guns to me are like legal crack