Grovey, your statement about 250 sav. and getting a 140-150 fps at 2800 fps, is with out a doubt the dummist statement i have ever read on this forum.it makes no differance what round the hunter is useing bullet weight or bullet make up.bad or poor shot placement is what happened in this case and all other cases of this type.Bluefish, i would hope you and your not so very good hunter friend would go have another look and put in a lot more effort to find this wounded deer. rio7
