I should add that big bull my buddy shot was 200yds on the first shot. Man that was a big ol bull fell over dead in a depression what SOB it was to get him quartered out. First moose I gutted like a deer buddy wanted to do a shoulder mount talk about a pain in the ass. Rolled the guts his insides were jello from the bullets no real meat loss. Looked like I just slaughtered a family after I was done.