Anyone who thinks they should be shooting elk, or anything else, long range. Put paper plates at those distances, and keep all your rounds on them. In different light and wind conditions. If every round is in them, from field positions, you may be able to play the game. 95% of hunters can't, at long range. Don't be a wounder. The animals deserve better. You aren't carrying a benchrest with you into the mountains, and a bipod doesn't help much, if you have adreneline running, or are just short of breath. Or, just plain are not a good, practiced shot. If you aren't shooting 2-300 rounds a month, every month, from your hunting rifle, don't kid yourself you are an expert long range shooter. You are not.