Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire So Give Me The Straight Dope on the Confederate Flag.

To me it's just bit of history and a little bit or being proud of one's rebel roots. Myself, born in Tenn to Penn parents.

Wonder if we would have had a similar reaction if our little Carolina shooter was sitting there with a cross in his photo?

Seems we've had some recent mentions of issues if students display the American flag when there are Hispanics about. Guess it OK to be proud of anything except being an American.

I'm beginning to think I've lived through the best of times.

The minority now rules.

So I guess Tim Scott has to go too?

any knee jerk reaction to pacify a politically correct charged movement is grounds for dismissal, we need people with a backbone not spineless panderers

Its the same for both sides. A "R" is nothing more than a "D" with a kickstand.

I'm not a Southerner so don't have any personal stock in the flag as part of my heritage. However, a rather wise statesman from across the pond had this to say. “Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.” Sir Winston Churchill

In that context I'm fully in support of our Southern brothers and sisters keeping their heritage alive.

For those who say whats the big deal, lets just put the stars and bars away and move on you miss the big point. If we allow history to be washed of uncomfortable truths, then we will fail to learn the important lessons of the past. All those lives lost will have been lost in vain if we as a nation fail to address the bad and pain in the past just as much as the good.

We have a federal government willing and capable of running roughshod over this nation. How convenient would it be to remove any trace of history of Americans rising up against a federal tyranical government?

First someone has to rise up, and in these days of easy living, I don't see that happening.

All nations rose from tyranny at one point or another, including this one.

I was out tearing down the remainder of an old barn on the place running all of the current events thru my head when I remembered what my youngest son told me when he was an undergrad at Univ of Texas. He said in his American History since 1860 class, the prof told them all on the very first day of class that the ACW was strictly about slavery. Bottom line. No room for discussion. And he would fail, right then, any student who even tried to say or engage in conversation otherwise.

It is what it is, a piece of history of what was once the greatest nation on earth. Some think it represents oppression of their race rather than the defeated. They choose to reject their freedom and whine of grievances never experienced. Since they have rejected the American Dream I suggest they return to their homeland and try to reboot.

Sako75,
What outfit was your GGG Grandfather in? My GGGrandfather was in "E" Company 12th Tennessee Cavalry and he rode with Forrest. He was 40 years old when the war began and a Methodist preacher. I still have his Bible.

gotta just love 'academic freedom', and tenure.

When I was a kid, we had to take Virginia History in school...and it was written and taught with a perspective from Virginia, regarding the Civil War Era....

Virginia almost didn't secede from the USA, as the majority of slave owners were from the SE Part of the State...however when Union Troops invaded what is now Arlington County, this quickly reversed the opinion of many who did not want to secede.

On the other side, one can see how the Federals did not want across the Potomac to be a point that Southern Confederates could easily attack the Federal Capitol.. so the invasion of Arlington County was a safety measure to prevent that.

But stories quickly spread on how the local population were treated in Arlington County, and Fairfax County was next to be invaded.

It is here where Virginia Army Militia Units gathered at Bull Run, Manassas in Prince William County, to halt any more Northern Incursion into Virginia. Thru the war there were Skirmishes in Fairfax County, but the nasty stuff was in Prince William County as the closest to DC...

NOT all counties of Virginia decided to support the succession from the USA... most of the Western Counties, HAD NO SLAVES, nor did they want to fight to defend slavery. So those counties 'temporarily' refused to support the succession, yet still claimed to be part of Virginia...they thought the war would be over quickly.. but it wasn't. Those western Virginia Counties, eventually set themselves up as a Separate State on June 20, 1863... first named Kanawha After the River that runs thru the central part of the state. Most people didn't pronounce it correctly from elsewhere, so the state's name was changed to what it is called nowadays.... WEST Virginia.

mine was born in 1835 and died in 1929...he joined Dr. Buchanan's cavalry near Nashville ... our family was one of the first in what became davidson county

this is the one:

11th Battalion, Tennessee Cavalry (Gordon's)
This regiment also called the 10th was organized in January, 1862. Later the battalion merged into the 6th Tennessee Cavalry Regiment.
Companies in this Regiment with the Counties of Origin
Men often enlisted in a company recruited in the counties where they lived though not always. After many battles, companies might be combined because so many men were killed or wounded. However if you are unsure which company your ancestor was in, try the company recruited in his county first.

Company A - Captain James T. Wheeler - Men from Giles County.
Company B - Captain William W. Gordon (to lieutenant colonel), W.H. Abernathy - Men from Giles County.
Company C - Captain Edward E. Buchanan - "The Barron Guards" - Men from Davidson County.
Company D - Captain Edward L. Ensley - Men from Davidson County.
Company E - Captain William W. Roundtree - Men from Davidson County.
Company F - Captain Martin B. Foutch - Men from DeKalb County and Smith County.

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Damn, I hope they were wrong, but it's starting to look like the issue is still not settled 200 years later. At this point if the more open minded blacks do not step forward and put a stop to all the talk of race war and white terrorism, I'm only seeing the situation festering. Decades of progress wiped out in six years.

To me the Stars and Bars was always about Southern Pride.
This flag should be flown proudly in public places down South!
To me it is a First Amendment issue especially for Southerners.... and politicians be damned!
BTW... Thank You for your family's bravery and service !

That is neat! My ancestor was from Humphreys County.

One of your better posts in a long time.

If that be the case, would it have not been wise to have a Constitutional Convention to outlaw slavery before going to war to "free the slaves"? A free the slave amendment would have made you blue bellies look alot better in light of your War to Aggress the South, especially when there was no law to prohibit slavery at the time..