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Originally Posted by 4ager
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Before we get too far ahead another WWI exam question:


Identify the highly decorated young German Lieutenant from the Italian Front who later became one of the key generals in WWII.

How did he impact the events of WWII and how did his WWI experience influence his thinking and decision making?


Erwin Rommel.

His experiences in Italy in WWI lead him to rewrite German doctrine on infantry maneuvers and tactics; leading to the highly advanced use of small units, fire-and-maneuver, assault, and basically everything else the Germans did that was groundbreaking in WWII in terms of infantry and armor.


And Guderian didn't have anything to do with it???
As a matter of fact they both pulled ideas from a paper presented in the mid '20's at St. Cyr by an obscure French General by the name of Fontaine. Dealt with the whole germ of infantry/armor tactics. Another obscure French cavalry officer tried to get the French high command to listen to him when appropriations were finally approved for a revamp of the French military in 1935/36. All based on Fontaines paper. . This officer pushed for a professional army in Metropolitian France. But it all fell on deaf ears. Care to guess his name?

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Originally Posted by kaywoodie
Originally Posted by 4ager
Originally Posted by hillbillybear
Before we get too far ahead another WWI exam question:


Identify the highly decorated young German Lieutenant from the Italian Front who later became one of the key generals in WWII.

How did he impact the events of WWII and how did his WWI experience influence his thinking and decision making?


Erwin Rommel.

His experiences in Italy in WWI lead him to rewrite German doctrine on infantry maneuvers and tactics; leading to the highly advanced use of small units, fire-and-maneuver, assault, and basically everything else the Germans did that was groundbreaking in WWII in terms of infantry and armor.


And Guderian didn't have anything to do with it???
As a matter of fact they both pulled ideas from a paper presented in the mid '20's at St. Cyr by an obscure French General by the name of Fontaine. Dealt with the whole germ of infantry/armor tactics. Another obscure French cavalry officer tried to get the French high command to listen to him when appropriations were finally approved for a revamp of the French military in 1935/36. All based on Fontaines paper. . This officer pushed for a professional army in Metropolitian France. But it all fell on deaf ears. Care to guess his name?


Easy. Charles de Gaulle.


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Yup


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Ok! Here's a fun one!!! Name the American song writer and singer who spent time in the French Foreign Legion during the Great War before his transfer to the Ambulance Corps?


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Ok! Here's a fun one!!! Name the American song writer and singer who spent time in the French Foreign Legion during the Great War before his transfer to the Ambulance Corps?



Was it Cole Porter?


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Originally Posted by hillbillybear
Originally Posted by kaywoodie
Ok! Here's a fun one!!! Name the American song writer and singer who spent time in the French Foreign Legion during the Great War before his transfer to the Ambulance Corps?



Was it Cole Porter?


Night and day!!! You are the one!!!!


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Originally Posted by hillbillybear
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Ok! Here's a fun one!!! Name the American song writer and singer who spent time in the French Foreign Legion during the Great War before his transfer to the Ambulance Corps?



Was it Cole Porter?


Probably. The original "Klinger". wink

Teach, try the Civil War stumper I threw you.


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That's a good description, 4!!!!!!


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Originally Posted by 4ager
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Ok! Here's a fun one!!! Name the American song writer and singer who spent time in the French Foreign Legion during the Great War before his transfer to the Ambulance Corps?



Was it Cole Porter?


Probably. The original "Klinger". wink

Teach, try the Civil War stumper I threw you.


I must have missed it. What is the question?


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Originally Posted by 4ager
Here's a quiz question for you, teach...

What famous Civil War commander only won one fight, though in many, prior to the War and that win via firearm use landed him in jail, where he then started the study of law - a profession he held prior to and after the war?


Bump, for the prof.


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Originally Posted by 4ager
Here's a quiz question for you, teach...

What famous Civil War commander only won one fight, though in many, prior to the War and that win via firearm use landed him in jail, where he then started the study of law - a profession he held prior to and after the war?


That is a good one. He had to be a Yankee with a fight record like that. grin


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Originally Posted by hillbillybear
Originally Posted by 4ager
Here's a quiz question for you, teach...

What famous Civil War commander only won one fight, though in many, prior to the War and that win via firearm use landed him in jail, where he then started the study of law - a profession he held prior to and after the war?


That is a good one. He had to be a Yankee with a fight record like that. grin


Nope, surprisingly. He was just rather thin framed and not overly muscular. He made up for it, though, and then some.


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Originally Posted by kaywoodie
Originally Posted by 4ager
Originally Posted by hillbillybear
Before we get too far ahead another WWI exam question:


Identify the highly decorated young German Lieutenant from the Italian Front who later became one of the key generals in WWII.

How did he impact the events of WWII and how did his WWI experience influence his thinking and decision making?


Erwin Rommel.

His experiences in Italy in WWI lead him to rewrite German doctrine on infantry maneuvers and tactics; leading to the highly advanced use of small units, fire-and-maneuver, assault, and basically everything else the Germans did that was groundbreaking in WWII in terms of infantry and armor.


And Guderian didn't have anything to do with it???
As a matter of fact they both pulled ideas from a paper presented in the mid '20's at St. Cyr by an obscure French General by the name of Fontaine. Dealt with the whole germ of infantry/armor tactics. Another obscure French cavalry officer tried to get the French high command to listen to him when appropriations were finally approved for a revamp of the French military in 1935/36. All based on Fontaines paper. . This officer pushed for a professional army in Metropolitian France. But it all fell on deaf ears. Care to guess his name?




Don't forget Brusilov in all this too with his revolutionary for the time theory of combined arms assaults at enemy weak points.


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Originally Posted by 4ager
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Originally Posted by 4ager
Here's a quiz question for you, teach...

What famous Civil War commander only won one fight, though in many, prior to the War and that win via firearm use landed him in jail, where he then started the study of law - a profession he held prior to and after the war?


That is a good one. He had to be a Yankee with a fight record like that. grin


Nope, surprisingly. He was just rather thin framed and not overly muscular. He made up for it, though, and then some.



Mosby?


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Originally Posted by hillbillybear
Originally Posted by kaywoodie
Originally Posted by 4ager
Originally Posted by hillbillybear
Before we get too far ahead another WWI exam question:


Identify the highly decorated young German Lieutenant from the Italian Front who later became one of the key generals in WWII.

How did he impact the events of WWII and how did his WWI experience influence his thinking and decision making?


Erwin Rommel.

His experiences in Italy in WWI lead him to rewrite German doctrine on infantry maneuvers and tactics; leading to the highly advanced use of small units, fire-and-maneuver, assault, and basically everything else the Germans did that was groundbreaking in WWII in terms of infantry and armor.


And Guderian didn't have anything to do with it???
As a matter of fact they both pulled ideas from a paper presented in the mid '20's at St. Cyr by an obscure French General by the name of Fontaine. Dealt with the whole germ of infantry/armor tactics. Another obscure French cavalry officer tried to get the French high command to listen to him when appropriations were finally approved for a revamp of the French military in 1935/36. All based on Fontaines paper. . This officer pushed for a professional army in Metropolitian France. But it all fell on deaf ears. Care to guess his name?




Don't forget Brusilov in all this too with his revolutionary for the time theory of combined arms assaults at enemy weak points.


Expound upon Brusilov; unfamiliar with him.


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America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Originally Posted by hillbillybear
Originally Posted by 4ager
Originally Posted by hillbillybear
Originally Posted by 4ager
Here's a quiz question for you, teach...

What famous Civil War commander only won one fight, though in many, prior to the War and that win via firearm use landed him in jail, where he then started the study of law - a profession he held prior to and after the war?


That is a good one. He had to be a Yankee with a fight record like that. grin


Nope, surprisingly. He was just rather thin framed and not overly muscular. He made up for it, though, and then some.



Mosby?


Yep. A distant relative of mine, too, in fact. That family lineage is ... interesting. wink


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Originally Posted by 4ager
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Here's a quiz question for you, teach...

What famous Civil War commander only won one fight, though in many, prior to the War and that win via firearm use landed him in jail, where he then started the study of law - a profession he held prior to and after the war?


That is a good one. He had to be a Yankee with a fight record like that. grin


Nope, surprisingly. He was just rather thin framed and not overly muscular. He made up for it, though, and then some.



Mosby?


Yep. A distant relative of mine, too, in fact. That family lineage is ... interesting. wink



I wish Mosby could have gotten his hands on Custer.


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Mosby or N.B. Forrest vs Custer would have been epic.


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Originally Posted by 4ager
Originally Posted by hillbillybear
Originally Posted by kaywoodie
Originally Posted by 4ager
Originally Posted by hillbillybear
Before we get too far ahead another WWI exam question:


Identify the highly decorated young German Lieutenant from the Italian Front who later became one of the key generals in WWII.

How did he impact the events of WWII and how did his WWI experience influence his thinking and decision making?


Erwin Rommel.

His experiences in Italy in WWI lead him to rewrite German doctrine on infantry maneuvers and tactics; leading to the highly advanced use of small units, fire-and-maneuver, assault, and basically everything else the Germans did that was groundbreaking in WWII in terms of infantry and armor.


And Guderian didn't have anything to do with it???
As a matter of fact they both pulled ideas from a paper presented in the mid '20's at St. Cyr by an obscure French General by the name of Fontaine. Dealt with the whole germ of infantry/armor tactics. Another obscure French cavalry officer tried to get the French high command to listen to him when appropriations were finally approved for a revamp of the French military in 1935/36. All based on Fontaines paper. . This officer pushed for a professional army in Metropolitian France. But it all fell on deaf ears. Care to guess his name?




Don't forget Brusilov in all this too with his revolutionary for the time theory of combined arms assaults at enemy weak points.


Expound upon Brusilov; unfamiliar with him.




Russian general who mounted the only saliently effective Russian attacks on the Eastern Front after early 1914. Most famous for the Brusilov Offensive in 1916

He would mass forces and launch surprise attacks where least expected and would use infantry, artillery, and Russia's limited air forces in a cohesive manner.

Think progenitor/precursor to the concept of blitzkreig.


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Originally Posted by 4ager
Mosby or N.B. Forrest vs Custer would have been epic.


Mosby or Forrest would have cut Custer's balls off.


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