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Who walks around carrying their rifle by the scope? I see people (even guides) doing this on TV and scratch my head. Doesn't make sense to me.
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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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What else would you put a scope on a rifle for?
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Bill,
I know it makes some people cringe, but I've not owned or used an internal adjusting scope or mounts that were so schitty they would lose zero from supporting the weight of the gun they're mounted to.
I think compared to the recoil a scope endures, being used as a carrying handle is next to nothing.
Travis
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Who walks around carrying their rifle by the scope? I see people (even guides) doing this on TV and scratch my head. Doesn't make sense to me. That is what stocks and slings are for.
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I don't know if there is any harm or not in using the scope for a handle , I don't do it simply because I never got in the habit.
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I don't condone it, but the scope and mounts should be able to handle it. miles
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Bill_N,
When I was in my mid thirties I had a rifle built that was quite light for the times. I had high rings installed on purpose and carried it by the scope. I discovered the #6 screws were not adequate to hold the constant pressure and they came loose.
There was a fun thing I learned from the experience, though. I prefer high rings. When I bring up the rifle with my eyes closed and shoulder it, then open my eyes I am looking right through the center of the scope.
Just like so many tell us scopes are nothing but a sight, they are wrong. Scopes are used for other things, also. I don't see anything wrong with the practice of using the scope as a handle as long as the mounting system can handle the job. But then I don't try to impress others, only myself.
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Big difference in a scope supporting the weight of a rifle VS a rifle supporting the weight of a scope. I learned about 40+ years ago that it was a bad idea. I too had gotten in the habit of carrying my rifle by my scope. I had them high, see through mounts on a 300 Savage. While hunting outside of Yellowstone on the White river I spotted an Elk feeding below me. I pulled the rifle up and the scope jiggled. Luckily I got that Elk but I learned my lesson. Tom
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Bill_N,
When I was in my mid thirties I had a rifle built that was quite light for the times. I had high rings installed on purpose and carried it by the scope. I discovered the #6 screws were not adequate to hold the constant pressure and they came loose.
What was it chambered in? Travis
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I don't make it a habit but I do it on occasion. Tis one of the reasons I prefer two-piece bases.
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I don't make it a habit but I do it on occasion. +1
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Bill,
I know it makes some people cringe, but I've not owned or used an internal adjusting scope or mounts that were so schitty they would lose zero from supporting the weight of the gun they're mounted to.
I think compared to the recoil a scope endures, being used as a carrying handle is next to nothing.
Travis If the rings were perfectly aligned and lapped it's probably OK but I don't think most scopes are mounted that way.
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If your setup is not durable enough to hold by the scope occasionally then how would it ever survive a fall or bump?
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6-48 screws with an average bite of maybe three threads never seemed adequate to withstand the constant vertical pull of a 7 or so lb. rifle. Probably work in a lot of cases but why not just carry it conventionally?
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I don't make it a habit but I do it on occasion. +1 +2 I also carry it upside down by the receiver/magazine area.....occasionally, and frequently the so-called "African"carry...
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If the rings were perfectly aligned and lapped it's probably OK but I don't think most scopes are mounted that way.
Ok. Travis
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Big difference in a scope supporting the weight of a rifle VS a rifle supporting the weight of a scope. I learned about 40+ years ago that it was a bad idea. I too had gotten in the habit of carrying my rifle by my scope. I had them high, see through mounts on a 300 Savage. While hunting outside of Yellowstone on the White river I spotted an Elk feeding below me. I pulled the rifle up and the scope jiggled. Luckily I got that Elk but I learned my lesson. Tom How did you determine your method of transport was the source of the problem? Travis
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Can't say for sure it was but from that point on I eliminated that possibility. Tom
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