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I installed the Rifle Basix trigger tonight in my M700. What a pain in the ass! LOL

You out to just throw the direction in the trash because they are worthless. There was nothing in the directions about taking off the safety gizmo from the old trigger. I have never worked on a M700 trigger before, so I did not know there was a little ball bearing in there that decided to go flying. Took me 15 minutes to find it with a flashlight under my workbench (pure luck).

Then, I was trying to put the safety gizmo on the new trigger and that little clip was a pain to get seated. I about had it until it decided to go airborne too. Finally found it in a spider web, being guarded by a nasty spider. So, out came the brake cleaner. Zapped the spider and in the process I wiped out most of my brain cells. Had to turn on the fan and open the garage door to air the place out.

Finally got it all back together and it works perfectly. Next time I work on a Rem trigger I am doing it on the floor over a large white sheet. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

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Don't ever try a Timney then...


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Done plenty of Timneys in my Rugers and they were a snap. Other than filing down the back of the trigger to clear the selector, they were a cinch.

I think the Remington trigger is a stupid design. That little clip is all that keeps the safety from going haywire.

I cannot count the number of AR15's I have built, and they are nothing but springs, and they were a snap. Probably because everything was designed to work in unison.

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Yes, Remmy triggers are sort-of difficult to work with. It seems like a third hand would help. Still, when they are finally assembled correctly, they are a pretty good trigger and can be adjusted to produce a nice pull.

By the way, a number 2 steel shot pellet works quite well in place of the little ball detent on the safety.

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Why bother stuffing the pockets of the rifle basix guys? Ain't nothing wrong with the reminton trigger. I will take it off your hands if you don't want it.


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Granted, the safety mechanism isn't the easiest thing to deal with, but it's not difficult either. Not too long ago, I did a trigger swapaloo on one of my rifles ... replaced the factory unit with an RB unit I picked up in the classifieds here ... took me all of about 10 minutes to break down the rifle, remove the old trigger, take the safety mech. off, put it on the RB unit, install the new trigger, and put the rifle back together.

Now, to qualify that, I've taken apart a few triggers, and was/am familiar with process of removing/reinstalling both the safety mech. and the trigger itself. All you need is a properly sized drift punch and a small hammer. Use the end of the drift punch to pop the little "lock" off the safety, remove the pieces (including the bolt release button), then use the punch and hammer to remove the two pins holding the trigger in, and then reverse the process to install the new trigger.

Thinking about it now, the most difficult part (if you want to classify it as difficult) is to work with the bolt stop on the action ... that's where I'd like a third hand, if I were to employ one for the job.

anyway, trust me ... now that you've done it once, the next time (should there be one) will be cake ...

Then again, you seem to be the bad luck master ... no telling what your results will be.


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A bike ball ball bearing is the right size too,I learned that here.With all the on and off to make the Rifle Basic work,I then lost the spring that holds the detent ball down,so I bought the 3-position NULA saftey,lost that little spring,too. I bought another Remington safety and a Shilen.I guess I could have gotten a spring from NULA,they are nice people.So don't feel too unlucky.

The Nula safety is a neet piece of engineering.But to be really slick,the tolerances could tightened,spreading some metal and a shim stock. That is a fitting job,not a manufacturing one.


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It's hard for me to imagine that you had another problem with yet another product. Chitt magnet king.........


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LMAO... BTDT... Nothing more fun than chasing down an errant spring/plunger that's just gone into orbit in the shop..

Good thing I'm the only one here when this happens so the blue language from my Navy days bounces off bare walls..

An old trick, when you're not sure of what may be inside some mechanical unit, is to disassemble it with a towel or rag over it.. This especially helpful when removing the firing pin spring from a M70 bolt.


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Try doing this in a plastic bag-maybe with a wood box frame. This was sugested to me after I had fun chasing that little ball in CZ 22 triggers while doing trigger modifications-you really need the third hand in the center of your chest to re assemble these. I would listen very carefully and hear which wall that little ball had bounced off in the living room . A small magnet is a great help in finding metal items like this quickly. Good motivation to keep the shop clean and organized when you remember the last time something disapeared for a bit. One ball I remember took two weeks to find in a shag carpet before I got a magnet -then I found it on the second pass-click. Nuff said!
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It all worked out in the end, I just wish Rifle Basix would have had a section on swapping out the safety. Now that I know how to do it, it will be no big deal. But that was the first time I ever messed with a Remington trigger. I had no idea there was a bb in there that was going to go MIA.

Also, Rifle Basix makes their directions harder than it has to be. They imply you need to keep the spring inside vertical while you try to compress it and at the same time install a pin. Easier if you just take the spring out, then install the front pin. Then, put the spring back in and install the rear pin.

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That's what all those "exploded diagrams" are for -sometimes they help a lot . Amazing what you can find on the internet these days- I always treasured my books when I had questions. You end up with a few extra parts in the box if you do this long enough. Just don't disassemble a nylon 66-know your limits.
This might be the reason that I painted my garage floor tan and designed the tables etc to be easy to clean under and find stuff. Now along as I remember to close the big door one problem will be solved. Its about as much fun as looking for a tool needed for 30 sec. that somehow grew legs and 1/2 hour to find.
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Kind of almost makes the $225 for a Jewell with the safety installed worth it.

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A third arm.....what a good idea. I've pulled a few Rem triggers off lately. Some for replacement, and a couple so that I could Duracoat the action.

Normally, just pulling the trigger off, and replacing it is a pain, but not a big deal. The two Rifle Basix triggers that I did went together with no issues. But the Timney. I thought it would take 10 minutes, and it felt like 10 hours. Plus the searches for the various bits that went missing.

Got smart last time around, and imported a Jewel. It came with the bolt release and safety, so no mucking about there. It went on like a dream. Just got to keep saving for some more of them I guess....


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