24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
#1042135 10/15/06
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 21,810
D
djs Offline OP
Campfire Ranger
OP Offline
Campfire Ranger
D
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 21,810
What ever happened to Rick Jamison? I sure enjoyed and learned from his Reloading columns in Shooting Times.

I understand that he sued Winchester for patent infringement for the various Winchester Short Magnums - he apparently patented a similar concept, but I do not understand how his patent differs from other short cartridges offering a short fat body (e.g., the 6mm Rem BR, etc). Since he won his suit (reportedly in the milllions ($), he has disappeared.

Does anyone know the details?

GB1

Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 2,762
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 2,762
Search this forum and you`ll find more reading you will have time for on the subject. It has been hashed over for the last 6 months.


I must confess, I was born at a very early age. --Groucho Marx

Patriotism is supporting your country all the time and your government when they deserve it. --Mark Twain
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 625
X
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
X
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 625
I sure enjoyed reading his articles and do not subscribe to ShootingTimes any more but might give it a try the sample they sent me had articles by Ken Ohelor and Lane Pierce.
-Doc-

Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 6,820
Campfire Tracker
Online Content
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 6,820
I heard there was a settlement, he is probably lilving off of the cash. I think he took his short, fat concept to the patent office and challenged usrac.

Joined: May 2006
Posts: 518
L
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
L
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 518
I read through the other post and I was left with a couple of questions:

1. Why was Remington not party to this suit? As I understand it there are not many differences between the WSM and RSAUM concepts? Am I mistaken here? Is the Remington design enough different to avoid patent-infringement? (Or was Winchester just the test run before going after Remington as well?)

2. I remember when they were first coming out, the WSM and RSAUM were compared a lot in the gun rags and the big question seemed to be not which was "better" but rather, which would eventually win the hearts of the American consumer and go on to enjoy long-term success. Assuming there are sufficient differences in the RSAUM concept to allow them to avoid similar patent-infringement problems, do you think that this event will be the deciding factor in answering the question of which design will enjoy longevity? I can't imagine many rifle manufacturers would be willing to shell out a bunch of cash for royalties when they can just chamber for the RSAUM and keep their profits to themselves. Again, am I missing something here?

IC B2

Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 21,317
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 21,317
I think the companies will chamber the rounds that are most popular, as that is what will make them the most money, I don't believe the royalty is a huge sum of money per rifle. As the WSM came out first and garnered market share, it is likely to be the one that stays around the longest.

But never underestimate the fickle gun buying public's tastes <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />


Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24

597 members (160user, 12344mag, 007FJ, 1337Fungi, 10gaugemag, 06hunter59, 74 invisible), 2,434 guests, and 1,208 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,191,772
Posts18,476,934
Members73,942
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.114s Queries: 13 (0.004s) Memory: 0.8089 MB (Peak: 0.8566 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-04-29 14:53:40 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS