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Now we are going to start the hot chamber argument!
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Why do you hate Colt lowers? They now use regular pins and no more sear block, just a web that doesn't hurt anything. An AR lower should be milspec dimensions, minus the sear hole. Anything else just lowers it's potential versatility.
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I thought all the new ones were standard dimensions.
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Why do some trucks cost more than others? I worked for a guy who said "Why would anyone trust their life to a gun that needs a forward assist?" whelennut
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Why do some trucks cost more than others? I worked for a guy who said "Why would anyone trust their life to a gun that needs a forward assist?" whelennut They don't really need one. The Vietnam era AR's were tested with extruded powders, which is what they were built for. Then the military bought a bunch of 5.56 with ball powder. This fouled the guns inordinately and lead to the stories about the AR not being reliable. When an AR is fired a bunch with ball powder, it does get gummy. This leads to a forward assist being an advantage. It is also an advantage if you are fearful of carrying one hot and then need to quietly chamber a round in the presence of game, rather than letting the bolt slam home as it is supposed to do. So the need for a Forward Assist is debatable. I've got and have had some with and without the feature. I have very seldom used it.
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"Why would anyone trust their life to a gun that needs a forward assist?" whelennut Was he a retard also? Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I thought all the new ones were standard dimensions. I think he is talking about the area where a RDIAS would go. It would have to be milled out. However, unless you own or are planning on getting a RDIAS, its a non-issue. I can't find anything wrong with my Colt lower, works just like all the rest.
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Just got back from club (range) and looking over my targets. LMT .....Because Failure Is Not An Option!
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Some people just need something to gripe about.
Bushmaster, Rock River and plenty of other brands have a high shelf that needs to be milled out too but only those few with an RDIAS know, the rest just think Colt is the only one. Too funny.
While I've held an RDIAS In my paws, that's as close as I'll get to one.
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I thought all the new ones were standard dimensions. I think he is talking about the area where a RDIAS would go. It would have to be milled out. However, unless you own or are planning on getting a RDIAS, its a non-issue. I can't find anything wrong with my Colt lower, works just like all the rest. Is it still impossible for someone without access to a mill to replace the trigger with any trigger available? I tried putting a RR in a sear block Colt. Not happening. And the RDIAS, RLLs are an issue too. I would like to own one some day.
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New Colts will take any trigger you want.
I thought that was old news by now.
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Never tried a RR in my Colt, probably never will. Send me all your unwanted Colt lowers, I'll send you some Andersons.
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I put a geissle in a 6720, so that does work.
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Back to the OPs question I went with the colt 6920-OEM1 This is a Colt LE rifle without furniture ($720) I ordered PINK Magpul stock, hand guard, trigger guard, and grip ( this will be the wife's rifle) I ordered a aimpoint PRO and Magpul magazines I will use an old BUIS and sling I have. Total for all $1,250
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I have a Stag 6, a CMMG 16 Bull WASP Upper, and a first experience Homebrew Upper built with economy parts and a Stag NY 16" (Stag Model 3) barrel.
The Homebrew is still in the teething pains stage, but initial accuracy testing has pleasantly surprised me.
On brief reflection, I think the fit and function are effectively/collectively due to the strict commonality inherent in the basic design, combined with the accuracy potential of a good barrel.
I know this can sound like anathema to the hardcore AR enthusiast, and I commend their fervor. I just want a basic AR that works as expected, and costs what I can afford.
The Homebrew Upper's teething issues are due to haste and inexperience on my part, and can be corrected by readdressing my assembly process taking more time and attention. The parts appear to be fine.
My other two Uppers are based on 16" and 24" Bull Barrels, and the Homebrew's lighter weight and better balance are both noticeable and welcome.
Greg
PS The barrel is as described above, the free-float parts are from JTM, the gas system is Roush, and the complete upper assembly came from ARstuff. Aside from the barrel, all components were purchased direct from Amazon, and the entire cost was $438 including shipping.
It is topped off by a Vortex SPARC mini-dot.
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Just to throw a curve in the conversation but didn't FN get the military contract for the military firearm?
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FN has the contracts on both the M4 and the M16.
They build em exactly like the TDP says and that came from 40+ years of continuing development. Any company is capable of building them to meet the mil spec, problem is most don't.
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