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Re: Front sight too low or rear sight too hight - need some advice Chris_Chris #10424990 09/13/15
Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 5,178 Mt Airy, MD J JoeMartin Campfire Tracker
JoeMartin Campfire Tracker J Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 5,178 Mt Airy, MD	Chris, this is the front sight on my 1926F in 303, it's a Marbles Improved, and very tall to the bead. I think I had the same problem you do. It shot about a foot high with the rear sight all the way down. I'm going to put a tang sight on it so I can lower it farther. I thought some one said tang sights like tall front sights. Any way, it's been on the back burner for a couple years, maybe I'll get to it this year? Joe. I'm not greedy, I just want one of each. Remember Ira Hayes JoeMartin

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Re: Front sight too low or rear sight too hight - need some advice Chris_Chris #10425192 09/13/15
Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 14,598 N E Kansas Rick99 Campfire Outfitter
Rick99 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 14,598 N E Kansas	If you want to raise the rear sight you have to raise the front sight by an equal amount in addition to what was calculated so you will stay on the same plain (not change the impact point. Savage...never say "never". Rick... Join the NRA...together we stand, divided we fall!

Re: Front sight too low or rear sight too hight - need some advice Chris_Chris #10449754 09/18/15
Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 12,732 So. Kaleefornya L Lightfoot Campfire Outfitter
Lightfoot Campfire Outfitter L Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 12,732 So. Kaleefornya	Is there a 'final answer' on what the overall height of the front sight needs to be? I'm home now and will see what I have if I get a number.

Re: Front sight too low or rear sight too hight - need some advice Lightfoot #10451300 09/18/15
Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,288 Tennessee Skidrow Campfire Tracker
Skidrow Campfire Tracker Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,288 Tennessee	Quote I'm home now and will see what I have if I get a number. Two times half the distance to the top. Go tell the Spartans,Travelers passing by,That here,Obedient to their laws we lie. I'm older now but I'm still runnin' against the wind

Re: Front sight too low or rear sight too hight - need some advice Chris_Chris #10452322 09/19/15
Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 2,044 N.E. Minn. KeithNyst Campfire Regular
KeithNyst Campfire Regular Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 2,044 N.E. Minn.	Mike, it sounds like the right replacement sight would be .088". Current sight: .035" + additional height needed (.022) + the added height needed to set the rear sight on the 2nd notch (.308 - .277 = .031). That adds up to 0.088".

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Re: Front sight too low or rear sight too hight - need some advice Chris_Chris #10453082 09/19/15
Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 12,732 So. Kaleefornya L Lightfoot Campfire Outfitter
Lightfoot Campfire Outfitter L Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 12,732 So. Kaleefornya	NO, I'm asking for overall height from the bottom of the dovetail to the top of the bead. That is how they are measured by manufacturers I believe.

Re: Front sight too low or rear sight too hight - need some advice Chris_Chris #10453850 09/19/15
Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 75 Houston, Texas Chris_Chris OP Campfire Greenhorn
OP Chris_Chris Campfire Greenhorn Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 75 Houston, Texas	Ok made some carefull measurments !! found some big mistakes Lightfoot I need a .500 or about front sight top to bottem of dovetail The math for anybody intrested: Current front sight 0.37" (not 0.035 thats a short front sight) To correct -4" at 80 yards - I need to move front sight up 0.0291 0.37 + 0.029 = 0.399 Rear sight sitting on barrel 0.20 Rear sight on 2nd notch is 0.30 0.30 - 0.20 = 0.10 corrected front sight is 0.399 + (after rear sight change) 0.10 = 0.499 so i need a .500 or about front sight - top to bottem of dovetail thanks for all the help

Re: Front sight too low or rear sight too hight - need some advice Chris_Chris #10454256 09/19/15
Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 12,732 So. Kaleefornya L Lightfoot Campfire Outfitter
Lightfoot Campfire Outfitter L Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 12,732 So. Kaleefornya	The tallest original Savage front sight is about .470. The shortest I have measured is .375. I don't think I have any tall ones of the older G style on hand but I will take a look. You may have to use a universal brand to get that height.

Re: Front sight too low or rear sight too hight - need some advice Chris_Chris #10454828 09/19/15
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norm99 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 7,702 Likes: 1 BC transplant to n alberta And...	Originally Posted by Chris_Chris Ok made some carefull measurments !! found some big mistakes Lightfoot I need a .500 or about front sight top to bottem of dovetail The math for anybody intrested: Current front sight 0.37" (not 0.035 thats a short front sight) To correct -4" at 80 yards - I need to move front sight up 0.0291 0.37 + 0.029 = 0.399 Rear sight sitting on barrel 0.20 Rear sight on 2nd notch is 0.30 0.30 - 0.20 = 0.10 [b]corrected front sight is 0.399 + (after rear sight change) 0.10 = 0.499 so i need a .500 or about front sight - top to bottem of dovetail thanks for all the help forget my post norm Last edited by norm99; 09/19/15. There is not enough darkness in all the world to put out the light of even one small candle----Robert Alden . If it wern't entertaining, I wouldn't keep coming back.------the BigSky

Re: Front sight too low or rear sight too hight - need some advice Chris_Chris #10455384 09/19/15
Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 2,913 Madiganistan P Penobscot_99 Campfire Regular
Penobscot_99 Campfire Regular P Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 2,913 Madiganistan	Originally Posted by Chris_Chris You Sure Front sight post goes up, point of impact comes down. If rear sight aperture can move down, point of impact moves down. From "Adjusting iron sights" web site.... Front sight post goes down, point of impact comes up. Front sight post goes up, point of impact comes down. Rear sight aperture moves left, point of impact moves left. Rear sight aperture moves right, point of impact moves right. If rear sight aperture can move up, point of impact moves up. If rear sight aperture can move down, point of impact moves down. This is correct but you have to think about all the parameters which make.s it confusing.

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Re: Front sight too low or rear sight too high - need some advice Chris_Chris #10455402 09/19/15
Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 2,913 Madiganistan P Penobscot_99 Campfire Regular
Penobscot_99 Campfire Regular P Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 2,913 Madiganistan	Originally Posted by Chris_Chris Hey guys My 1930 99 "G" has always shot too high and I would like to fix this problem... See target - all shot at 80yards - bench rest - the top hole is 3+ inches high. I took the step wedge out of the rear sight so the rear of the sight was sitting on the barrel - the two shots below the top hole was the result. Then I aimed at the bottom edge of the target without an elevated step wedge and the result was the closest hole. No more room to lower rear sight - so I guess need to raise front sight (correct? ) Front Sight measurements: Any suggestions — better plan ? Which size front sight ? - I would like to raise the rear sight so it's not sitting on the lowest step also... Any front sights for sale?? Thanks Guys Chris Hmmm? Put the sights back to original and have a friend shoot at your 80 yard target

Re: Front sight too low or rear sight too high - need some advice Chris_Chris #10458000 09/20/15
Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 75 Houston, Texas Chris_Chris OP Campfire Greenhorn
OP Chris_Chris Campfire Greenhorn Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 75 Houston, Texas	Penobscot I have no friends who would have any idea how to shoot iron sights or be intrested in shooting a "Crap" rifle like a Savage 99... The problem is you can't shoot deer at 80-100 yards in east Texas piney woods without a 7mm Mag and a $1200 Zeiss scope - everybody know that - Im just play around with rifles just a notch better than a sharp stick! My friends are no help and completely uninterested - sorry to say - but true... The real problem this 1930's 99 G in 300Sav cam without a rear sight so I put the rear sight from my 1917 G in 250Sav on the 300 Sav and it just doesn't work it shoots too high. Time to step back and go it this with a better plan... Thanks for all you help

Re: Front sight too low or rear sight too high - need some advice Chris_Chris #10458098 09/20/15
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jimy Campfire Outfitter J Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 8,490 South Peyton Place, USA	Can you post a picture of the back sight that you are using? Is there enough material to grind the groove .03 deeper to solve your problem? Writing here is Prohibited by the authorities.

Re: Front sight too low or rear sight too high - need some advice Chris_Chris #10458308 09/20/15
Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 14,598 N E Kansas Rick99 Campfire Outfitter
Rick99 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 14,598 N E Kansas	" I put the rear sight from my 1917 G in 250Sav on the 300 Sav " Are you using a #15 wind gauge sight? If so you don't want to file on it. FYI...a 1917 .250 is a Model .250-3000 not a "G". Attached Images Sav#15WG.jpg.jpg (7.99 KB, 108 downloads) Last edited by Rick99; 09/20/15. Savage...never say "never". Rick... Join the NRA...together we stand, divided we fall!

Re: Front sight too low or rear sight too high - need some advice Chris_Chris #10459610 09/20/15
Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 75 Houston, Texas Chris_Chris OP Campfire Greenhorn
OP Chris_Chris Campfire Greenhorn Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 75 Houston, Texas	that not the sight - i'll send pic yes - I called it a G - not sure why It is a model 250-3000 with checkered trigger

Re: Front sight too low or rear sight too high - need some advice Chris_Chris #10460870 09/21/15
Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 12,732 So. Kaleefornya L Lightfoot Campfire Outfitter
Lightfoot Campfire Outfitter L Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 12,732 So. Kaleefornya	That's a newer sight and according to Murray, wouldn't have been used on the G until 1935. Did you take that picture? I ask because it looks like one of mine? Your problem is looking more like a rear than a front sight issue - maybe.

Re: Front sight too low or rear sight too hight - need some advice KeithNyst #10460978 09/21/15
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,937 South Central Wisconsin GeneB Campfire Regular
GeneB Campfire Regular Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,937 South Central Wisconsin	Might need a No 20 flat top instead of a No 20 semi-buckhorn. and not the No 20 flat top for a 1920 bolt gun (on the far right). ...and not the No 20 flat top for a 1920 bolt gun (on the far right). Gene

Re: Front sight too low or rear sight too high - need some advice Chris_Chris #10463800 09/21/15
Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 75 Houston, Texas Chris_Chris OP Campfire Greenhorn
OP Chris_Chris Campfire Greenhorn Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 75 Houston, Texas	Ok Guys I searched 99 rear sight (images) and that one matched the one I have ( it came from this site so it may be yours) ... Hope you don't mind I used it... Lightfoot I do have this cheap rear sight I picked some were it is 0.26 sitting on the barrel without the notched wedge - and I would have no problem filing it down - LOL even if was just to measure correct rear sift height... Thanks again Chris

Re: Front sight too low or rear sight too high - need some advice Chris_Chris #10463856 09/21/15
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99guy Campfire Outfitter 9 Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 9,343 Likes: 1 Va	Another clear cut case of paralysis by analysis. At 80ish yards I would hold about 2" below where I wanted to hit. Problem solved... "You cannot invade mainland America. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass" ~Admiral Yamamoto~ When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty. ~Thomas Jefferson~

Re: Front sight too low or rear sight too high - need some advice Chris_Chris #10464920 09/22/15
Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 12,732 So. Kaleefornya L Lightfoot Campfire Outfitter
Lightfoot Campfire Outfitter L Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 12,732 So. Kaleefornya	Chris, I'd say you're on the right track with that generic version.

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