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so are they gonna ban compound bows during archery season?
i want a special season for people who hunt w/ a cue ball in a wool sock.


you have it now . its called the general any weapons season , use a fly swatter if you like just make sure it has the correct let off and hydraulic activation as well as pressure relief valves . Maybe self propelled so you don�t have to pack it . you of course will need the most Up to date computer softwear so all you have to do is input a photo or drawing of the intended target and let it go .
Satellite imagery linked to a TADS would also be recommended . One must take the most advantage of the laser sighting system
then let her go . Hang out around camp , have a few , itll be back LOL <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/help.gif" alt="" />

just kidding , just kinda struck me as funny , nothing personal



i dont know . i doubt very much anyone that i have heard is talking of banning any weapon to include compounds a or modern muzzleloading firearms.
I can say I have heard much the same disagreement with the archers . Seems there are so many modern gadgets coming out , optics , laser sights . Mechanisms that will hold the bow at full draw . Shoulder mounts . Some of the new designs and I don�t know for sure , but I have been told have 80 , 85% let off ..
So I would expect that you will see restrictions in some states concerning what can and can not be used in both modern muzzleloading and archery

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i want a special season for people who hunt w/ a cue ball in a wool sock.
I'm going to petition the game & fish where you hunt. You are taking unfair advantage, you got to use a cotton sock to be fair. miles


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Why don't we all just stay out of the woods and kill things from our PC's. in our living rooms <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />


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To no one in particular...

I don't know how big game seasons are set-up in other states, but in Minnesota the muzzleloader deer season offers a huge incentive to the hunter. The incentives are in place because of the supposed "limitations" of the method. Minnesota allows inlines, but no scopes or smokeless powder.

This year the regular firearm season for the zone I hunt has two options - a 2-day season (Nov. 4-5) or a 4-day season (Nov. 11-14). The tag is good for one buck OR one doe via a lottery. The area I hunt is slug only.

The muzzleloader season for the exact same area is 16-days (Nov. 25 - Dec. 10). The tag is good for either sex.

While I'm all for the special muzzleloader season, as the performance level between slug guns and inlines blurs, the huge difference in the two seasons looks pretty silly.

Give the above, I'm interested in what "hi-tech" inline hunters think is fair.


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I think the fair thing is for you to get an Inline, sidelock or flintlock (your choice) and go hunting. miles


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Why don't we all just stay out of the woods and kill things from our PC's. in our living rooms <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />


happening sir .
a few months ago i remember a article , I have its somewhere ??? But anyway , this company set up canned hunts . You paid your fee. They had a camera set from a hunting blind . These blinds were spread out over different areas .
These were direct links mind you .
It was basically like playing a video game . Set the cross hairs and shoot .
As I recall the fee included a taxidermy cost as well as shipping of meat to your location .
What caught my eye was that the state this was set up in was trying to shut them down for not providing hunting licenses and tags .
The company was saying that this these were canned hunts , for private raised game . on private property .
That their customer by law were not in the state hunting and there for did not need to comply with state regulations .
Ya it was a heck of a deal .
Even had an interview with a customer who said basically that he didn�t have the time to go out and actually do a guided hunt . This way he felt he could get the experience on his lunch hour or in the evenings


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That's exactly what I was referring to. Fits right in with allot of the whinning going on in several of the threads. Keep on fighting guys,,,,that's what the anti's are looking for.!!!!!!!!


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ya really you guys thought i was kidding . here you go
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Texas rethinks 'Net hunting

March 08, 2005

Last November we told you the story of the Texas rancher who wanted to operate computer-controlled hunting on this property. Long story short, via live-shot.com and your PC you control the movement of a .30-06 on John Lockwood's property, shoot and kill any of the exotic big game you choose.

Lockwood claims it's just like a guided hunt on his ranch, but the Texas game commission disagrees. Officials are trying to outlaw remote-control hunting for exotic and native game animals.

The AP looks at states that are outlawing technology that give the hunters an unfair advantage, including the story of once device called "Robo Duk."

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By Mike Schoby

Texas rancher's controversial plan will allow long-distance hunting with the click of a mouse.

September 2006

Deer camps, bolt-action rifles and camouflage may soon be exchanged for cubicles, high-speed Internet connections and casual attire�that is, if John Lockwood has his way.

Lockwood, owner and inventor of www.live-shot.com, has garnered significant attention with his new twist on hunting. The main ingredients of his plan are a Texas ranch stocked with a variety of game, a remote-controlled, computer-aided rifle and the Internet. Lockwood's high-tech shooting platform allows people anywhere in the world to log on, enter a credit card number and start shooting. Lockwood is quick to point out that "it's not just a loaded gun out there in the woods; there's always an on-site 'guide' who overrides the controls until he is satisfied with the member's sight picture."

While some view this form of hunting as the future, many prefer a more traditional approach. No sooner had the idea begun making news than several organizations, including Safari Club International and Texas Parks and Wildlife, spoke out against it. The TPW seems to be gearing up to prohibit or restrict online hunting. The serious media quickly jumped on the story, as did The Daily Show on Comedy Central.

But Lockwood is determined. "My goal is to bring shooting and hunting to those who can't do either. Just because you have the ability to go out and experience hunting firsthand doesn't mean it's right to discriminate against those who don't."





do a google search for remote control hunting you wil find you get 4,760,000 hits on the subject <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

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I know an ex cop who was shot in the neck and is paralyzed from the neck down. His dad created a hunting chair that is equipped with a gun vise that is electronically controlled. Using a toggle arrangement, the young man can move the rifle and zero a target. Sipping on a plastic tube will fire the weapon. He shot a 10 point buck the first time it was used on a private farm! There isn't anyone who cannot go hunting if they want to and lots of organizations that will help them get there and do it - and even push their chairs!

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i agree dan . but isn�t that really completely different ?
I have no problem with truly handicap folks doing what they need to and using technologies to keep them active .


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Most states have too many deer. In Mississippi you can use centerfire rifles in the primitive weapons season. Cross Bows are becoming legal everywhere. The number of people hunting goes down every year. Let people use what they want.


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one has to be careful with that broad view . while its true many eastern states are having a problem with whitetail . At the same time many other states are not having a problem and in fact have areas where the populations are in trouble .
As to less hunters .
Maybe true in your location but again not true everywhere .
One statement that always gets me is
Hunter numbers are down !!
You have to look real hard at this statement and find out , down compared to what .
Down compared to the actual numbers 10 years ago ?
The Idaho fish and game is well know for this statement when they want a pay or tag increase.
When you actual look to find the comparisons they use one finds it compared to % of population .
This makes the statement true
when you see actual tag numbers have never been higher .
So just another wording we need to better understand


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Here in OR. tag sales are down from 20 yr.s or so ago (emperically)...Population has grown by 20%...early 90's, dog hunting for cougers and bears (baiting also) outlawed through a voter referundum..."Beware of the tyranny of the majority". Better get our [bleep] together if we want to pass on any opportunities to our grandkids.
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"I'd rather sit on the porch for a week and listen to 15 old women nag on their old men and bitch about their ailments with a sharp stick in my eye than listen to this stupid traditional vs. modern "argument".

I think WW's comment pretty well sums it up, from my point of view, anyway.

well said, bro....

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Cap, I'm bad at nuance. I was referring to the idiot who is offering internet hunting to people who cannot get to the woods. My anecdote was to show that there is no such thing. If Mike can get to the woods, anyone can.

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Cap' I prefer aperture sights on my muzzleloaders and my Enfield is my re-enactment rifle.Her issue sights hit 4 inches left at 50 yards and are not windage adjustable in any way and modifications out of issue standard are a no-no.Also she's a big girl ( 39 inch barrel 10 lbs)with alot of worn blueing and honorable scars from many a bloody field...After 2000 blank rounds and 2500 ball rounds she's NEVER misfired including several battles fought in the rain.She hangs on the living room wall over skull/rack of her first kill , a nice 6pt buck.50 yard shoulder shot. Lyman 575-213OS Bore butter lube 60 gr Swiss 3f.

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Just tap that front sight an itty bit left


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Cant. Front sight is a solid piece soldered to the barrel and doubles as the bayonet lug...( Co. E 1st Texas Volunteer Infantry C.S.A.)

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not much smaller then my de Chase which has a 44 inch barrel .
if your that far off at 50 then i would suggest taking it to a good black powder gunsmith and having it fixed to shoot correctly . you should have no problem centering an Enfield.
i can tell ya how to do it the right way . but PM me as it may scare ya a little.
Had a fella a couple years back bring me a SXS that some fella had tried to blue with a torch. I kid you not the barrel was 1 � high at the muzzle , looked like a banana.
Fixed her right up. He went out the next weekend did fine shooting clays ..

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I have a sidelock and an inline, and I think if the traditionalists want to do it the old timey way they should all have to use flintlock muskets with no rifling. They should also have to wear "period clothing" so they look really authentic while they freeze their butts off!


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