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First two groups after getting it sighted in, with the new Tikka 260 ss fluted, bought from SAS at Whittakers:

Found this old box, think I need to find someone these to reload myself. After seeing both groups, I can see where holding the forend in light rifles can be important to wring out accuracy. After these 100 yd groups took it out to 400 yds on a 4" steel plate, hit it 3/3. Needless to say I'm happy with this little hunting rifle, looking forward to rolling some of my own with other bullets, I really like the 120 gr NBT, 125gr NPT, 130gr Accubonds in my other 260.

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Here's the first group shot as quickly as I could work the action, allowed to free recoil, originally measured it at 1.326-.264=1.062. remeasured a little closer at 1.317-.264=1.058. Close to MOA...

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Heres the second group with tighter technique, holding foreend, measured 0.735-.264= 0.471. Less than 1/2 MOA...

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Nice groups...what glass did you slap on it? My 2SL's like to be held really tight and with firm down pressure on forend.

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Real good shootin...Ya got a winner there,how bout pics of said rifle.Just duplicate the recipe for the load ya just shot,twist up bout 60 or so and go kill critters...ScottyO
Pls post pics of Rifle...GRIN.

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Here's the Tikka in a B&C green stock and VX3 3.5-10x40 CDS, weighed it tonight. Fully loaded with three rounds it weighs exactly 7 lbs.

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My Montana with the same scope fully loaded weight 6 lbs 4 oz.

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Another lesson today about holding the forend while shooting over bags:

Rifle: Kimber Montana 260 Rem
Load- Federal Fusion 120 gr

Free recoil: 1.499-.264= 1.235

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Forearm held tightly: 0.534-.264= 0.270

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Nice guns, they should do the trick.


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Question to change this grouping are you just holding the fore end of the gun like you would shoot it off hand? Just curious


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On the Tikka I just held the forend tightly like off hand.

The Kimber I actually adjusted the scope a few clicks to get it closer to the bullseye and then held it tightly like offhand.

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Ok I was just curious nice rifles


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Still don't know why Kimber dropped the 260 offering...


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Originally Posted by lhead71
Still don't know why Kimber dropped the 260 offering...


Same reason the .260 isn't wildly popular in general. Average Joe doesn't have much of a clue about this stuff. Why else would the .270 to be exponentially more popular than the .260 for deer hunting?

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Thats true, I have some rifles that the average Joe would question...

260 Rem
260 AI
6.5x55 Swede
280 Rem/7mm Express
280 AI
284 Win
7mm-08
35 Whelen

Yeah, yeah, I know I like 6.5 and 7mm guns! I have owned a lot of different 7mm, the magnums have never interested me though... Take any of those and it will do exactly what the next will do...

Most average Joes don't see beyond their 270, 308, 30-06...Not that there is anything wrong with them, I own 2 308's myself.

But with the technological advances in bullets, it just doesn't make sense to me why more manufactures don't offer more choices, I mean other than inventory, popularity and money...


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So which do you like better, the lighter Kimber or the Tikka?

And why buy the Tikka if the Kimber came first? It looks like they both shoot well.

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Originally Posted by 8SNAKE
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Still don't know why Kimber dropped the 260 offering...


Same reason the .260 isn't wildly popular in general. Average Joe doesn't have much of a clue about this stuff. Why else would the .270 to be exponentially more popular than the .260 for deer hunting?


Might be because the .270's got a 72-year head-start, and because it's just a little bit better as an all-arounder, whether or not most folks actually get around to using it for such. The .270 had Old Jack rooting for it, but Carmichael, great guy that he is, never had quite as much pull. I'm not even sure he pushed the .260 much as a hunting round, and neither has anyone else I know of. Now, to add to its troubles, it's got the Creedmore and Lapua versions nipping at its heels.

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Well,
I had the Kimber for a while and I do enjoy it, but my daughter is getting bigger and wants it now. So, I had to go get another 260 for myself because I enjoy the round very much. Since the Kimbers are almost impossible to find, especially this close to rifle season, I went with a known performer.


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Originally Posted by Pappy348
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Still don't know why Kimber dropped the 260 offering...


Same reason the .260 isn't wildly popular in general. Average Joe doesn't have much of a clue about this stuff. Why else would the .270 to be exponentially more popular than the .260 for deer hunting?


Might be because the .270's got a 72-year head-start, and because it's just a little bit better as an all-arounder, whether or not most folks actually get around to using it for such. The .270 had Old Jack rooting for it, but Carmichael, great guy that he is, never had quite as much pull. I'm not even sure he pushed the .260 much as a hunting round, and neither has anyone else I know of. Now, to add to its troubles, it's got the Creedmore and Lapua versions nipping at its heels.


You're making my point. Average Joe buys what he's told, rather than assessing what actually best meets his needs.

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Maybe this average Joe doesn't re load and if it ain't broke why fix it. So the 270 or 06 it is
Nice rifles btw


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I'd Sure Like To Have That Kimber 260.. You Sure Your Daughter Wouldn't Be Happier With a Nice 243 Montana...Just Happen To Have a Nice One. And a 7-08 As Well. Her Pick...

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Thanks for the offer Mull! I actually have a 7mm-08 Montana as well. I stupidly traded out of a classic select in 260 years ago. I lucked into trading a Rem 700 in 308 for this one. Probably one of the last guns I would want to sell or trade but I never say never, I am a looney!


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As you can see, the Kimber isn't shooting reloads, they are basic Federal Fusion 120gr box loads. It shoots them so well, I just don't see the point in reloading for it.

But I do get your drift, not everyone has access to rarer chamberings and the loads that work for them. I used to think the .243 was rare, never saw much around for it, but now you can buy a box just about anywhere, whereas 7mm-08, not so much, and its probably more popular than some others.


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Originally Posted by 8SNAKE
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Still don't know why Kimber dropped the 260 offering...


Same reason the .260 isn't wildly popular in general. Average Joe doesn't have much of a clue about this stuff. Why else would the .270 to be exponentially more popular than the .260 for deer hunting?


Might be because the .270's got a 72-year head-start, and because it's just a little bit better as an all-arounder, whether or not most folks actually get around to using it for such. The .270 had Old Jack rooting for it, but Carmichael, great guy that he is, never had quite as much pull. I'm not even sure he pushed the .260 much as a hunting round, and neither has anyone else I know of. Now, to add to its troubles, it's got the Creedmore and Lapua versions nipping at its heels.


You're making my point. Average Joe buys what he's told, rather than assessing what actually best meets his needs.


Average Joe looks at the ballistics for hunting loads and sees the .270 in the lead. He also knows nine other guys with .270s and if he checks the ammo on the shelves in the store he may not even see any .260s for sale at all but box after box of .270s with all kinds of bullets and in every price range. That meets his needs better than a 1/2" shorter action and a little less recoil. With the Tikka, he doesn't even get the 1/2". grin

The point can be made that a .260 is a fine deer round, maybe even that it's as good in most cases as the .270, but certainly not better except in very limited circumstances involving very long ranges and high B.C. bullets. Those circumstances mean pretty much zip to Mr. A.J.

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