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I found a 219,with a spare 20 ga barrel and fore end. The owner had the metal on the 30-30 Dura-coated? Anyway the metal looks good under the light grey finish,the metal is grey under the safety selector and barrel opening lever,looks grey up into the receiver from the trigger side as well as opening the action and looking in from above. The receiver and trigger guard are coated as well. The 20 ga and fore end are original type finish with normal wear signs from an old gun and everything feels tight and smooth otherwise. He wants 300 for the combo,which seems a little high for the other examples I've seen but I was curious about the coating,will it last, will it detract severely from the gun value,will it come off if I want to refinish to original,or will it make the gun more "weather proof",I don't recall encountering this finish before. I did not notice which model it was (B,G,or L),sorry. Thanks for your feedback.

The coating will kill any collector value might have been unless it could be removed without damaging the rifle further and done economically.

But if you want one and it does has the SG barrel, the 300 may not be bad.

Check on line auctions for this model to get an idea of pricing, desirability and availability.

I watch the 219's on GB and the 30-30's go from about $200 to $350. I've seen a couple 22 Hornets go for $450. One of the 30-30's had the most beautiful wood I've seen on a 219 and it went for around $200, then some rather ratty ones went up in the $300's, go figure, Joe.

I found one today at a gun show , But the barrel had been cut to 16 1/2 inchs ported and the stock had been cut down for a youth, it the stock hadnt been cut I might have come home with me also had cheap scope on it was asking 290.00

I really like mine with a 20" bbl and Schnabel forend.

I thought of your rifle Jim , had the wheels spinning, though about getting a butt stock ect, but I have a short barreled encore in 300 blackout all ready. I realy like yours tho!

diamondjim, that's a beautiful rifle, and functional as well!
I think the grey paint caught my eye and the spare barrel, I usually see them only as a single item. I will look into the Dura-coating,but I think I'll pass unless the price gets better. Thanks.

A working combo for $300? I'd grab it. Mine cost a good deal more than that (.30-30/20 guage) but it's an early Utica gun with a stock that is about the prettiest I have, including some much higher priced guns. (Somebody sure won the "wood lottery" back in the late 1930s on that one!).

And it's tapped and drilled for modern Weaver mounts, so I didn't have to stress about ruining a potential collector's item by doing it myself.... Came with an early Japanese-made Savage-marked scope and rings, which I sold to a Savage collector and mounted an old Redfield "Widefield" 2 3/4X w/post-and-crosshairs. These things really shoot.

The more I see these 219s bandied about, the more I'm thinking I need to have one again.

You've heard my tales of how I frittered away a bunch of my old man's guns 25 years ago when he died. I still have no regrets about most of them, except of course the Savage lever guns. (I had no time for such 2nd rate things back when I was "young and dumb".) He also had put together a set of barrels on a 219 frame- .22 Hornet, .30-30, .410, and 20 gauge, with a .25-20 barrel waiting in the wings that never got fitted. (Where he came up with a .25-20 barrel I haven't a clue.) I horse traded the whole shebang for a high condition K-22 S&W. Probably an even trade then as it would be now, more or less. Now, of course, I need to add that set to my list of regrets. But of course, a lot has happened in the last 25 years and there's no saying if I would still have it or not. Still, I wouldn't mind either a .22 Hornet or .30-30 219. One in .357 Magnum or .32 H&R Magnum would be the cat's azz, too.

I found my .25-20 barrel in a "barrel of barrels" in an almost-defunct gunshop in southern Maine. It was pristine. EXCEPT for a deep ring halfway down where some genius had stuck a bullet in the bore and then fired another one on top of it.

Had it relined and fitted it to my 220 .410 with a few laps of wet-or-dry paper on a wooden dowel. A great shooter. This was all in 1985 or so. The only .25-20 barrel I've ever seen loose from an action, and I haven't seen many "whole" .25-20 rifles either. And not a single .32-20.

In the Savage line, I'm a 24 fan. So, which barrels interchange with the 219? I see references to the 220, etc. It seems that over the years I have seen 22hornet,30-30 and 20 ga.219's for sale just wondering when I get one which other hardware interchanges? (Notice how the disease spreads)?

As far as I know, all 219 and 220 barrels interchange with the Utica-made 219/220s and the earliest Chicopee Falls manufacture without the cocking stud on the barrel.

If you have one of the models with the cocking stud (later Chicopee Falls and Springfield models with a letter suffix A to D, except for the last 219/220Ls), it will only work with the barrels with the cocking stud.

The last model "L" with the side lever opening only uses its own barrels, I think. (Never owned one, never will--they work, but are so ugly you gotta call 'em OOOOOGLLLEEEEE!).

I believe that Utica and early Chicopee Falls forends interchange, including between 219s and 220s. But the forend channel needs to fit the barrel, and only the .410, 28, and 20 guage 220 shotgun barrels will fit the rifle forend barrel channels without alteration.

16s and 12s need either their own forends or the rifle barrel channel needs to be opened up (the gap makes a great place to gather rain, leaves, pinfeathers, and weed seeds....).

Later "letter suffix" forends only fit "letter suffix" barrels; they have a different (stamped, not milled) forend attachment. And they have to have the proper size barrel channel too, of course.

I don't notice any handicap using a 219 rifle with rifle forend with a 220 shotgun barrel; handles fine for me. Some might well prefer to use the fuller, more hand fitting, shotgun forend for wingshooting, tho.

I looked over my rifles and did some barrel mix-and-match and found out that my post above was mistook:

The 219/220 models B-D DO have the cocking stud on the barrel. The Utica and early Chicopee Falls 219/220s and the 219/220A models DON'T.

So the early "no letter" models and the "A" actions will work with all barrels except the "L", but their barrels will NOT cock the 219/220 actions "B thru D."

Anybody confused yet?

Who's on first base?

Easier to follow than the Presidential campaign!

HMMMM....not at all sure that's a compliment! But I'll take it as one anyway!

I wish politicians were as honest and useful and cheap as 219s and 220s.

I like the looks of the 219 and 220. I have a set in 30-30 and 12, Nuttin' fancy.