Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Idaho rancher killed by deputies over a wounded bull.

Damn...... I'm glad somebody posted what a lot of us have thought.

I've always believed that the different motivations for choosing a career in L.E. set that group apart from the "general population". [I also believe the bad motivations outnumber the good ones, but hopefully, that's not reflected in the L.E. population due to a "weeding out" in the hiring process].

But even if there is no difference, the results are more dangerous when relying on common sense is replaced by "training".

Copying military training for cops is the problem, in my opinion.

In the military, the mission is paramount. Personal safety is obviously important, but it's secondary to accomplishing the mission. Casualties are expected in a large scale operation.

When Law Enforcement training adopts all the tactics of the military, but reverses the order of importance - where personal safety trumps all - a bad thing happens:

Each person encountered becomes the potential "enemy". Any action on his part other than surrender causes the "training" to kick in and "potential" becomes "actual".

And we have a divide.

Or,maybe since the sheriff allegedly ask him to change his account of the incident,he lawyered up..Or,since he is the only witness to date to speak out and there are news crews begging for first dibs at an interview,he lawyered up..Or/or/or...

Doesn't mean he is lying..The wife whom had the heart attack is the other one on scene and I'm sure she has her account of what happened even tho biased as some would put it and another extra guilty vote.

It's not that complicated, group mentality does indeed drive human behavior.

So, if you dress up folks like Soldiers, in military gear, they will act like military and will in fact view the general public as the enemy versus their real role as peace keepers who are entrusted with the law and the Constitutional rights of this nations citizens.

EVERY SINGLE writer of the Bill of Rights DID NOT want the Federal Government to have an "Army" nor to have such power over this nations citizens, PERIOD.

I'm sure Adams County, Idaho, with it's population of 4,000 and an average family income of $26,000 has several SWAT teams.

I'm sure Adams County, Idaho, with it's population of 4,000 and an average family income of $26,000 has several SWAT teams.

I'm pretty sure the rancher didn't show up on the scene to threaten the cops with a rifle. We're not talking about an inner city crackhead here.

I'm also pretty sure the cops killed him. I guess it was all just a minor misunderstanding. Nothing to see here, move along, go on home.


How about this instead? The population there marches (with guns) on the local police department and drags them all out in the street and gives them a first class ass kicking?! That's what they deserve. This BS has gone far enough.

Hopefully logcutter left a few trees standing so they can have a good ol' fashioned hangin'.



Dave

PS-You'd make a great lawyer. Very objective and fact based line of thinking you have here.

Or,maybe since the sheriff allegedly ask him to change his account of the incident,he lawyered up..Or,since he is the only witness to date to speak out and there are news crews begging for first dibs at an interview,he lawyered up..Or/or/or...

Doesn't mean he is lying..The wife whom had the heart attack is the other one on scene and I'm sure she has her account of what happened even tho biased as some would put it and another extra guilty vote.

Haven't spent much time around ranchers but you should change your handle to TheVirtualCleanser.
Travis

No offense, but you really must be blind to not be able to see what's happening. Hot heads with guns and badges.

I'm sorry the police in your area are hot heads and that I can't see what is happening in your area.
Dave

My area has zero to do with this discussion.