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I had a call from the sheriffs office last Sunday morning about stock on a secondary road 5 miles from here. Not mine but they call everyone with cows Russ

I couldn't agree more with crossfire in this thread.

Translation:
"You're an azzwhole." = "You won the argument, I got nothing."






Translations:

Yep. I think it's doubtful that weasel and I would agree on much in fact my decision to switch careers earlier in life was because of the preponderance of that kind of callous stupidity. I seriously doubt I'd cross paths with him , unless perhaps I'm pumping out a septic tank, but I dam sure know the type of ego involved. Used to be another one here...but he's gone.

It is actually a result of a policy called multiple use. There are no more bison in the country to control the growth of forage so we use cattle today.

Cattle make the range better and reduce the risk of fire.

You don't like what cattle do to the forest, you sure as hell would not like what free ranging bison used to do.

I was told the accident happened six miles N of Council. I travel that road frequently. That section is fenced but is only a mile or two from a bunch of private property which is not fenced as those property owners do not own cattle.

But the private property lies in a narrow band about a mile wide between the hiway and USFS grazing alottments. Deer hunters frequently cut the fence between the private and public lands. Such has happened twice this fall in that immediate area that I know about.

When that fence is cut the cows have free access to those unfenced properties and onto the hiway. I am frequently amazed that I do not see dead cows on that stretch of hiway on every trip through.

We had an exceptionally hot October in this area. Our grazing allotments do expire in early Oct. But the heat has made it exceedingly difficult to gather this year.

By late summer the cows are grazing at 7000 to 8000 ft altitude and we usually get snows in early to mid October which naturally push the cows out of the high country. Those snows have not happened yet, and the ranchers are still finding a few stragglers.

No one has actually stated so yet, but I strongly suspect this bull jumped a fence considering the exact area where the accident occurred.

Re: cv540's drivel,.... "Won the argument"

yup, we DID have one just like him here once, didn't we.

GTC

That's why I was giving FB chit earlier.

"Let your big black scheit walk around in the highway"?

Total troll statement.

This ain't Portland.


Tragic death and he was whining about cows messing up his elk hunting.



Weirdo.

How about resolving it with common sense. If you live in the area were raising stock is common, that kind of thing happens.

And as for still having bulls on cows right now that is no big deal.


Our 'marked open' calving cutoff date when preg testing is June/July which is 9 months from now. And the bulls have been out since mid-June so if something was gonna get bred it's already had plenty of time.

And generally bulls are all pretty wore out this time of year and are way easier to handle compared to spring time.

Still surprised at the level of anger and personal insults, but hey, whatever gets you through the night.

Disagree with you strongly, but respect your right to state it.

You think you can categorize people based on your past dealings but that has vast possibilities of error.

One of the proudest moments of my career was when I arrested another member of my agency who desperately needed it. His last moment of freedom was looking at me pointing a rifle at him while he decided how to play it.

At that point, they make all the decisions as to whether you shoot or not.

How were you employed by the PD?

Dink

The insults are for the callous remarks about a man you'll not shed a tear over and a situation you have no clue about.

That you don't understand....that says a lot about you.

Funny sheit right there.

again

You FINALLY got something right!

You are quoting yourself??

Guess at least you know you will agree with the quote.

What I was getting at Sam is two fold. If the whole deal or disagreement was about the "value" of the bulls genetic potential or being a " prize" ( as it is merely speculation). ....you can have a lot more value stored in the semen tank than on the hoof. If it was so valuable the owner was willing to die for it,it should have been better secured. I think livestock owners are no different than the rest of the population...good,bad, and ugly. It seems investment in facilities and containment is a low priority for some producers and the animals they own suffer from the decisions and behaviors made by their owners. I am in no way saying this is the absolute case here. I am only making my posted observations from the thread and 27 years as a bovine veterinarian. I appreciate your insight on this topic and others and hope to visit with you in the future about less tragic situations. I only hope too plant the seed in my posts on this matter is this " if you own em take care of em." To have good neighbors be a good neighbor. Good fences=Good neighbors. It is sad and perhaps I better STFU.

Two points:

-You have a clue about the situation??
Do you have a mole in ISP? "Hey fireman Ace, let me tell you what the REAL story is."

-I'll save my tears for the deputies that have to endure the nightmares for years to come.

cv540

No problem AT ALL calling out an undertone of FASCISM in your writings and rantings today, fella.

We're not "arguing", and Robert's rules of order are not in effect either.

You are who you are, and are very happy with your condition and mindset.



...forget volumes, that speaks an entire BOOK.

GTC