Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Idaho rancher killed by deputies over a wounded bull.

Yup, and talking about uniform standards and codes that should apply coast to coast, and injecting the fact that he's with, or has been with some unidentified and at this time indeterminate "Agency". Believes in what he believes, mind made up, case closed,....now get in the damned box car,...etc.

Remind you of someone that posted here years ago, pard ?

GTC

Thankfully, I think I've missed all that "secret squirrel" schit.

At this point, I think we've seen enough of these incidents where the lynch mob wants to go get the cop (Ferguson anyone?), but as the facts finally come out, it turns out that it was at best just a schitshow that NO ONE wanted and at worst the dead guy precipitated it. Eyewitness accounts have been... problematic as well.

All we know is very little, and it all centers around a damned small community (4,000 people) in the middle of an area most couldn't find with a map and assistance. The known facts are few, and don't really do much to help figure things out one way or the other - though we've got plenty that think the cops were either "Rambo" or saints, and the rancher either a martyr or a nutcase. In the end, the odds are that neither one will be either, but right now we just don't know.

The point you and others are ignoring is that y'all are speculating just as much as the persons condemning the cops, seemingly relying on the eyewitness accounts of the cops themselves whilst ignoring the accounts of others. I'm not saying who is at fault, if anybody.

Agreed.

Did Fireball (AKA Pale Rider AKA The Cleanser) make it to Idaho last night and exact the justice that needed exacting?



Dave

I just read the latest report from the Idaho Statesman. Here's what's been released so far:

The rancher was shot dead and a deputy slightly injured.
The rancher's wife's condition from her heart attack has been upgraded from critical to serious.
No info on the car's occupants has been released other than that they were flown to a trauma center.
It's unknown who killed the bull.
It's unknown how the argument started or how it escalated.
It's unknown who brandished a weapon or shot first.
We have 12 pages of posts condemning everyone and anyone based on only the above information.

I'm aboard with this , too.

No, we have 12 pages of the usual suspects stirring crap and everybody else allowing them to show their ass.

I didn't condemn anybody. I leave that to Christians.



Dave

Is that where "go to hell" came from?

Not sure what his name was but I saw a guy headed down hwy 12 wearing a cape and mumbling something about changing his head gaskets about 8pm.

This is some quality humor. I mean whether you're from the west, midwest or like...I dunno, Mindanao or wherever, the reader has to admit this is damned funny. lolol

Shut up and get in the oven.

I have not speculated anything, notwithstanding some knowledge, training and experience pertaining to police practices in a Wyoming farming and ranching setting and in the rules of evidence and the rationale behind them. While I could offer some perspective of some factors that may be relevant to the current situation, it still would not be necessarily be relevant to the exact fact situation of this case. The details reported on this thread are so sketchy, and the probative value of the “accounts” so unknown, that it just isn’t worth it wading into it after the lynch mob has formed.

yup try rounding up 5 horses at 2 in the morning.

norm

Personally, I haven't slept well since I saw the rape scene in Pulp Fiction in 1994.

That's swell. Thanks for sharing.

Surprised it wasn't the rape scene in Deliverance circa 1972 that caused the chronic insomnia.

He keeps that for jack shack material

here is some thing that nobody has proposed , rancher is carring his gun ,wife beside him , he is close to the bull or standing over him cops comes up behind him and either say something or put a hand on his shoulder AUTOMATICLY he swings around gun swings with him , it's now pionted at the cop who gets wounded,

so as the rifle swings around [ ] fill in the blank.

norm

I saw the censored TV version when I was a kid and didn't know what was going on. I can see where it would disturb you though since you do favor Ned Beatty.