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I was discussing this with a friend who owns property just two miles north of where this incident occured. He does not reside on the property, but spends about half of his weekends, vacation, and holidays there. He is friends with several full time residents of the same area, and has spoken with Jack Yantis on several occasions.

The brunt of our conversation was: Where does Adams County get their deputies. He stated that most are hired right out of academy. Adams County pay scale is too low to attract any seasoned officers, and pretty much excludes the cream of the academy crop.

That said, we still do not know the names of the deputies involved or any of their particulars.

I was informed of information online from an eye witness in the next car behind the Subaru. I have not been able to find this via internet search and would surely appreciate any one who could point me to it.

But this account apparently backs up the statement by Rowdy Paradis.

A couple of facts I have been able to ascertain. The bull was struck within a few tens of yards from Jack Yantis's barn. Jack and his wife had very little distance to travel to the scene. It was practically in their front yard.

I understand there are two eyewitness accounts that Jack never pointed his weapon at the deputies. One account, I have been told, states that Jack actually shot the bull. And was killed immediately after.

A couple of other items which I find disturbing: It has been several days and we have yet to hear the nature of one deputy's "wound". Nowhere has it been stated that Jack wounded the deputy, and I think that would have been stated if true.

The second item is the nature in which the sheriff stated that Jack's wife became ill after being informed of the death. The sheriff intentionally leads us to believe she was not on the scene.

It appears the sheriff is making factual statements, but making them in such a way as to lead his audience into untruthful conclusions.

I have believed the police mindset which might have led these deputies to over react and murder this rancher only existed in Chicago, Los Angeles, and other such schitholes of humanity.

I had a difficult time believing that this played out this way in rural Idaho, with the cops in egregious error. But it certainly appears that the facts are beginning to come out and it is not looking good for the Adams County deputies.

I sincerely doubt the sheriff will be sheriff after the next election cycle. And if the Adams County Prosecutor does not hang these two deputies out to dry, his job will not survive the election cycle either.

not looking real shiny on this "forum", either.

There's more than a few posting here that have driven between Wieser and McCall, and KNOW that area and her people.

TRUST them,...they will get through this, absent help from distant and dissonant help, or advice.

GTC

Keep going, we've almost come full circle. I will try not to rub everyone's nose in it.

BTW, 4ager, do you ever get out of the house?

Keep going, we've almost come full circle. I will try not to rub everyone's nose in it.

Dave,

I cannot.

Dave

Put your wife back on the account. At least she seemed a little more grounded in what really matters.

Are you [bleep] serious?

Because if you are you are one ungodly piece of [bleep].

A man dies under these circumstances, and ultimately it comes down to whether or not you were right and whether you will rub people's noses in it? People whose only concern was to wait on the facts.

If you're not serious, then you are an ungodly piece of [bleep], just the same.

Nice that you treat it like a game.

Put your wife back on the account. At least she seemed a little more grounded in what really matters.

Fireball can fight his own battles, but you berating somebody over essentially not taking a thread seriously is just rich as hell.

Right.

There's a time and a place for levity.

Harnessing a man's death on remote Idaho asphalt as a tool to private satisfaction is bullshit.

The fact that you can't see that difference speaks loads about you.

This ain't Kansas.



(levity added, just for you...)

I almost bought a shop in Weiser once, it's hard to countenance it being almost a quarter century ago
...spent more than a fair bit of time just hanging out in that general area,...and ran the road up to McCall MANY times. Strikes me that I remarked about folks were driving TOO FAST, at that time. Can't imagine that anybody slowed down much,....

We've been told that a "never back down" attitude is (in some circles) an outmoded, and somehow FROWNED UPON attitude.

I'll only comment that I've never seen it more strongly reflected in a nicer bunch of solid folks than those I met , during that all too brief sojourn there.

Can't see Cochise County as being a whole lot different, either.

There's something VERY wrong when hard working folks start to feel "cornered"

I'd have said / posted little or nothing here,...were it not for getting a strong whiff of the sort that aspire to corner.

Best for them that they realize that their smell can't wash off, and that their time's drawing to a close.

GTC

A real good post, followed by an excellent response.

"Not backing down", and "feeling cornered" are especially apropos to a LOT of these "bad" L E encounters, I'm thinking.

The brunt of our conversation was: Where does Adams County get their deputies. He stated that most are hired right out of academy. Adams County pay scale is too low to attract any seasoned officers, and pretty much excludes the cream of the academy crop.

I've seen you yuck it up on other threads that were as somber as this one and you probably did on this one too, although I usually just skip your posts. Adding that it's not Kansas alluding to your recent successful troll pretty much says how seriously you take any of this. Personally, I don't care because I know you're a dickweasling idiot anyway. I just wanted to point out for the audience how much of a hypocrite you are.

Exactly who asked for facts to be "made up", EE?

There were - myself included - some folks who asked to wait until the facts were known before jumping to conclusions. What, exactly, would or has that hurt? Perhaps a few feelings for not being able to say "toldja so" right off the bat (though that seems to be the case now).


Think about that for a second - wtf is wrong with us? Yes, I said "us".