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My kind of lawmen.

And I'm not saying these cops went out there with the intent to kill this men, but there is certainly something wrong with the training or the mindset or both that these cops are so tightly wired, or piss their pants scared that shooting a citizen is the first thing that crosses their mind.
We have a problem in this supposedly to be "free country" when we accept the killing of our neighbors by an out of control police force that feels that their spoken words, are all of the justification they need to kill you.

We are entering a dangerous place.

And I'm not saying these cops went out there with the intent to kill this men, but there is certainly something wrong with the training or the mindset or both that these cops are so tightly wired, or piss their pants scared that shooting a citizen is the first thing that crosses their mind.
We have a problem in this supposedly to be "free country" when we accept the killing of our neighbors by an out of control police force that feels that their spoken words, are all of the justification they need to kill you.

We are entering a dangerous place.

To serve and Protect just doesn't seem to fit much any more.

And I'm not saying these cops went out there with the intent to kill this men, but there is certainly something wrong with the training or the mindset or both that these cops are so tightly wired, or piss their pants scared that shooting a citizen is the first thing that crosses their mind...

This was published about Jack Yantis "...Jack was a lumberjack for most of his life as well as a rodeo cowboy and rancher. Jack was loved by everyone that knew him. He was good hearted, down to earth and would have done anything for anybody..."

To help offset all the discrediting done to Mr Yantis by forum LE/groupies, I can imagine that his murderers had to have pissed their pants upon finding themselves in the presence of a real man.

Only time I've encountered schitty cops is when I've lived in schitty places.



Travis

Was alcohol involved in this incident?

The aspect of this incident I find disturbing is the blanket thrown over the available evidence, apparently until all known witnesses can be identified and questioned.

Now, that sequence could be completely innocuous.

However, it could be done for the reason that, once the witnesses are committed to their observations, the officers involved have the opportunity to form their version of the events that exculpates them, while at the same time conforming to the witness observations as much as possible.

Compare this case with the shooting of the 6 year old in LA.

Reports came out with much more detail in a much quicker manner.

It wouldn't be unreasonable to expect that the reports of the officers involved would be available fairly quickly after the incident, and certainly should be written by the officers as quickly after the incident as possible, while details are fresh in memory.

Unless some coordination is necessary.

And if those reports are made, they should be available to the public through the department in a rapid manner. After all, they're the *truth*, and they ain't gonna change.

If the reports aren't for some reason made, that information should be made available also.

The aspect of this incident I find disturbing is the blanket thrown over the available evidence, apparently until all known witnesses can be identified and questioned.

Now, that sequence could be completely innocuous.

However, it could be done for the reason that, once the witnesses are committed to their observations, the officers involved have the opportunity to form their version of the events that exculpates them, while at the same time conforming to the witness observations as much as possible.

Compare this case with the shooting of the 6 year old in LA.

Reports came out with much more detail in a much quicker manner.

It wouldn't be unreasonable to expect that the reports of the officers involved would be available fairly quickly after the incident, and certainly should be written by the officers as quickly after the incident as possible, while details are fresh in memory.

Unless some coordination is necessary.

And if those reports are made, they should be available to the public through the department in a rapid manner. After all, they're the *truth*, and they ain't gonna change.

If the reports aren't for some reason made, that information should be made available also.

Available to investigators from ISP yes, general public not necessarily until they conclude there investigation.

Mike

Available to investigators from ISP yes, general public not necessarily until they conclude there investigation.

Mike

Those same witnesses SHOULD be free to tell their stories to a curious news reporter......... who, apparently... is missing in action.

Of course, there is the possibility that they have been warned that an internet forum exists where they will be branded as liars, or worse, if their story is unfavorable to the cops.

Possibly, we don't know.

But if they are, it appears the possibility of meddling with the physical evidence is nil, and the statements are what they are.

Why can't they be released, with redacation for personal information, to end speculation, and hopefully tension in the community, as much as possible?

If they are considering presenting this to a grand jury, they likely do not want to release much prior to that happening.

Jury members are supposed to assess the testimony of a witness, not the published reports ahead of time.

The smaller the population, the harder it is to get untainted grand jury members.