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In a small town like Council,word spreads fast and mums the word.


talk about contradictions.

fascinating thread here for sure. 1000+ posts of ????


Meaning there not talking to the press,nothing else..No contradiction..


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
EVERY reporter is looking for one thing...the Big Story. If they can't find it, they'll manufacture it. It is the only way to advance to a bigger market and more money.


Let's get to brass tacks, here. We have several written witness accounts, and no evidence at all that they are factually incorrect.

We have some reporters reporting trivial stuff independently.

We have a sheriff's statement after the fact that contains several (I dare say) deliberate misstatements and factual errors. The suggestion he didn't speak to the deputies is mind boggling, if true.

Everything is being investigated by the ISP, which has a history of covering up gross police misconduct and harassing anyone that doesn't join the cover up.

And you wonder why we don't wait for whatever story the Sheriff, ISP and suspected murderers are cooking up together?

And you wonder why local witnesses are reluctant to speak out in fear of retaliation?




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Originally Posted by cv540
Mr. Yantis has previous convictions for Resisting, Battery, and OWI. Older stuff, but something that may or may not provide some insight into how things went bad.

https://www.idcourts.us/repository/caseHistory.do?schema=ADAMS&county=Adams&roaDetail=yes&partySequence=4784&displayName=Yantis%2C+Jack+Fred


Why would YOU need any further "insight ?"

.....or have you gone swapped ends completely ?

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Originally Posted by Dutch
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EVERY reporter is looking for one thing...the Big Story. If they can't find it, they'll manufacture it. It is the only way to advance to a bigger market and more money.


Let's get to brass tacks, here. We have several written witness accounts, and no evidence at all that they are factually incorrect.

We have some reporters reporting trivial stuff independently.

We have a sheriff's statement after the fact that contains several (I dare say) deliberate misstatements and factual errors. The suggestion he didn't speak to the deputies is mind boggling, if true.

Everything is being investigated by the ISP, which has a history of covering up gross police misconduct and harassing anyone that doesn't join the cover up.

And you wonder why we don't wait for whatever story the Sheriff, ISP and suspected murderers are cooking up together?

And you wonder why local witnesses are reluctant to speak out in fear of retaliation?




No. I don't wonder about any of it. I was asked about reporters, not to speculate on things that I have no knowledge of. Are you one of those scared witnesses, or are you speculating?


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Let's get to brass tacks, here. We have several written witness accounts, and no evidence at all that they are factually incorrect.

We have some reporters reporting trivial stuff independently.

We have a sheriff's statement after the fact that contains several (I dare say) deliberate misstatements and factual errors. The suggestion he didn't speak to the deputies is mind boggling, if true.

Everything is being investigated by the ISP, which has a history of covering up gross police misconduct and harassing anyone that doesn't join the cover up.

And you wonder why we don't wait for whatever story the Sheriff, ISP and suspected murderers are cooking up together?

And you wonder why local witnesses are reluctant to speak out in fear of retaliation?


WOW..Great post and 100% correct in my eyes especially about retaliation...Last night at the Sheriffs meeting they ask the Sheriff if he would resign if the deputies were convicted of wrong doing..He said...NO

So there left with the currant Sheriff and deputies to deal with and be watched by.Know wonder they ain't talk'n publicly.

I say cop in this case instead of officer..Just 1 cop on your case in a small town looking for any reason too, is not a good thing.

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Also asked last night was if the dash or body cams were on.

Nine days after the fact and the local sheriff said he didn't know if they were on or not??

Yeah right!




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Really..

Picture this..The accident and what followed..The sheriff was notified probably by cell phone rather than over the air by the deputy and the sheriff and under-sheriff come to the scene..Both above the deputy and in charge at that point.

But didn't talk to the deputy on scene....Really!

Come on..

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Originally Posted by logcutter
Really..

Picture this..The accident and what followed..The sheriff was notified probably by cell phone rather than over the air by the deputy and the sheriff and under-sheriff come to the scene..Both above the deputy and in charge at that point.

But didn't talk to the deputy on scene....Really!

Come on..


We're confronting the "trickle down morality" prevalent at the highest levels,...e.g. LYING is justified, by extenuating circumstances, or what one's puppet masters and lawyers dictate / advise.
That A-whole has failed in his oath, and failed his community !

Damned tragic and lamentable state of affairs.

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Originally Posted by logcutter
Really..

Picture this..The accident and what followed..The sheriff was notified probably by cell phone rather than over the air by the deputy and the sheriff and under-sheriff come to the scene..Both above the deputy and in charge at that point.

But didn't talk to the deputy on scene....Really!

Come on..



Yes. Really


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Originally Posted by gitem_12
Originally Posted by logcutter
Really..

Picture this..The accident and what followed..The sheriff was notified probably by cell phone rather than over the air by the deputy and the sheriff and under-sheriff come to the scene..Both above the deputy and in charge at that point.

But didn't talk to the deputy on scene....Really!

Come on..



Yes. Really


Whether you think so or not, every one here is not stupid.

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Sherrifs are elected, if the people aren't happy with him they can certainly unelect him.



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Originally Posted by mirage243
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Originally Posted by logcutter
Really..

Picture this..The accident and what followed..The sheriff was notified probably by cell phone rather than over the air by the deputy and the sheriff and under-sheriff come to the scene..Both above the deputy and in charge at that point.

But didn't talk to the deputy on scene....Really!

Come on..



Yes. Really


Whether you think so or not, every one here is not stupid.



Maybe not. But we know you are.


If they lawyered up he CAN'T talk to them


Furthermore why would he inject himself into the middle of an investigation he is not conducting. He knows he still has an agency to run


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Originally Posted by gitem_12
He knows he still has an agency to run


You mean the rest of the crime and stuff in Adam's county hasn't stopped while we're waiting for the outcome of this?

I figured all the ne'er-do-wells were busy blogging and not up to no good.

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Furthermore why would he inject himself into the middle of an investigation he is not conducting


There was no investigation at that point.It was an ongoing incident where the sheriff was in charge once he arrived.

Through all that, the victim was never given medical care with EMT's on scene..The deputies do not have the authority to pronounce him dead.Only the coroner or an MD can do that here.

And the sheriff was oblivious to all this while there!

Yup,that's the way it went down and more than likely ISP will back it up with the officers fearing for there lives from a guy they called to take care of the bull....

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It was an ongoing incident where the sheriff was in charge once he arrived.


One would THINK that simple fact would resonate, and provide good grounds for careful reflections .

....looks like it's just echoing around inside of some totally empty heads, instead.

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Originally Posted by crossfireoops
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Mr. Yantis has previous convictions for Resisting, Battery, and OWI. Older stuff, but something that may or may not provide some insight into how things went bad.

https://www.idcourts.us/repository/caseHistory.do?schema=ADAMS&county=Adams&roaDetail=yes&partySequence=4784&displayName=Yantis%2C+Jack+Fred


Why would YOU need any further "insight ?"

.....or have you gone swapped ends completely ?

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Not sure what you mean by "swapped ends completely."


It is a small amount of information that MAY or MAY NOT be relevant.

MAY: He was pissed up drunk in the past, driving, fighting, and resisting. Was this his condition and demeanor a week ago? We don't know.

MAY NOT: He took the oath years ago, and was sober as a judge a week ago.



MAY: He and one of the deputies had dealings in the past when he was arrested and resisted, and there was bad blood between them.

MAY NOT: None of them had ever met before.













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Originally Posted by logcutter
Really..

Picture this..The accident and what followed..The sheriff was notified probably by cell phone rather than over the air by the deputy and the sheriff and under-sheriff come to the scene..Both above the deputy and in charge at that point.

But didn't talk to the deputy on scene....Really!

Come on..


He didn't say he had not talked to them, said he had turned over the cam's or footage to ISP and didn't know if they were on and recording during the incident or not.

Just seems strange that he would not know if there was video or not, nine days after the fact.

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Not sure what you mean by "swapped ends completely."


That speaks volumes, in and of itself.

I don't really give a damn if YOU understand,...there are a LOT of other folks reading this that will understand, and copy 5x5 EXACTLY what I'm saying.

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Not sure what you mean by "swapped ends completely."


That speaks volumes, in and of itself.

I don't really give a damn if YOU understand,...there are a LOT of other folks reading this that will understand, and copy 5x5 EXACTLY what I'm saying.

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Let me repeat a previous post: Do you ever discuss something with someone you don't agree with and NOT turn to insults or unfounded conclusions?


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Let me repeat a previous post: Do you ever discuss something with someone you don't agree with and NOT turn to insults or unfounded conclusions?



All the time,....

almost NEVER with fascistic a-wholes, though.

That work ?

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