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I agree with you gene, except for acesnaids....you just know he sucks ghetto cack

Actually the early witness statements with Michael Brown were pretty consistent, hence the "hands up don't shoot" nonsense. This was almost immediate.

After the investigation played out, and all the witnesses were interviewed, the forensics and ballistics were examined, we had a pretty good picture of what the truth was.

However, some of the witnesses still maintained he had his hands up, their testimony just wasn't deemed credible by the Grand Jury, as the forensics contradicted it.

And sometimes peoples recollection of things "Changes" when they are under oath and in front of a Grand Jury.

Don't take me wrong on this as I married an officer and have nothing but respect for most..I call them officers not cops out of respect.

The problem I see is the police family that sticks together, right or wrong.Not admitting officers are human and do make mistakes,some worse than others and any investigation,especially on other officers, is going to show the true facts only,not what really happened.We know this is not true all the time.

In this case,will the deputies report over ride what the witness's saw and experienced.Maybe the witness's are getting there statements out so they won't be thrown under the rug in the ISP investigation.

If the ISP report comes out negative to the victim, will that nullify what others saw and went through as if it didn't happen.I think it is good the other side is being heard before the official ISP report comes out.

Had none of this came out, it would be easy to just say Jack fired his weapon first and the officers took appropriate measures to protect those on scene or they feared for there lives.

We now know different.

Others of us see it this way too. Disgusting and shameful. It is precisely how LE misconduct is condoned and even encouraged.

"The problem I see is the police family that sticks together, right or wrong.Not admitting officers are human and do make mistakes,some worse than others and any investigation,especially on other officers, is going to show the true facts only,not what really happened.We know this is not true all the time."

Our forum cops will readily agree with you about some cops being bad. But only in a generic way.

Once a particular incident of cops misbehaving is brought up for discussion, the usual cadre responds just like Pavlov's dogs. They are robotic like in their responses.

Apparently, they WANT to be seen as different from, and apart from, the rest of the citizenry.

THEY are the chief cause of the division and mistrust where it exists.

How am I any different then the deceased's son-in-law who said that we will get the facts when thee investigation is complete, and have trust in the investigation?

I have no problem calling it as I see it.

You're a thug, no different than the ones that riot for no reason.

Your friend mirage and pal as well.

My guess is the lot of you will ultimately need due process before your lives are through.

So what would you rather have?

You want Obama to form a National Police Force that answers only to his Justice Dept.? How would that work out for everyone?

One thing about local law enforcement is that if you don't like the game they are playing, you and the rest of the constituency can by law and right change the players. That's the good thing about freedom. You have legal remedies to problematic areas of government.

Hell, you don't even have to have a good reason, other than you don't like the way he looks to vote a sheriff out of office.

Get busy.

This is telling coming from a man with his reputation and shows how bad things must be down there at the present time.

"You're a thug, no different than the ones that riot for no reason.

Your friend mirage and pal as well."

'Scuse me, but your lack of discernment is showing.

THIS is the internet... see?

Rioting for no reason is something that can only be done in the REAL world.

I hope you don't confuse the two this easily on the job.

That would be a very bad thing.

Up yours.

Very rational argument.

I'm sure you'll have lots of success with that method.

I see the difference fine.

I equate their level of dumbphuckery with that as people that riot for no or incorrect reasons. Expressing their level of outrage that coincides with undo attacks on people's wives based simply on a civil request to wait for the facts. Not to mention labeling that level of due process as shameful and disgusting in order to propagate more irrational BS.

Pretty much a thug in anyone's book.

And my job is surveying, so I place virtual maps into the real world. And vice versa. Got a pretty good handle on it, in fact.

If


Gene. Can you point one post on this thread where anyone has specifically defended the cops in question?

Don't waste your time John.

With Gene and the "ilk" collectively and without exception identifying the forum cops as a group in totality, there is no room in the discussion for varying degrees of response, common sense approaches to the situation, due process, facts, evidence, etc.

You either agree with the "ilk" or you don't.

And he's as much to blame with his broad brush as he makes the "forum cops" out to be.

Plain and simple.

In conclusion, its hard to show any level of respect for someone that wants to break down people for being diligent and prudent in making a decision.

It's sad that people who advocate this method for making a [bleep] life and death decision are mocked.

If founding fathers are rolling over because of the alleged tyranny in the U.S., they are equally rolling over for the mob mentality exhibited by so many.

No different than low information voters responding to social media.


I'm going for a beer on Veteran's Day, so I can wonder why I even put boots to dirt to defend some of you folks right to idiocy.

Good to see somebody else catching that drift.
Kudos.

GTC

Please, enjoy your beer!

Regards

Excuse me ?

did you just say "alleged tyranny ?"

Phew, good to know that there's no truth to that rumor.

GTC

Can you point to where I claimed y'all DEFENDED them. in the post you quoted?

Please just read the BLACK portion of my posts.

Why do you care if guys on an internet forum speak their minds WHEN IT HAS NOT ONE DAMN THING TO DO WITH YOU PERSONALLY?

When I asked that earlier, you, or one of your "ilk" said if I didn't understand it already, it couldn't be explained to me.

IME, a man that can't write clearly doesn't have a writing problem, he has a THINKING problem.

And.. if a man can't come up with a written explanation for WHY he believes something, it's because he's operating on feelings...... like a female.