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Paul:
I hear you regarding the Winchester loads. I haven't seen any of it in either my LGS or any of the internet ammunition sites. I believe the 145 grain load is listed as a Hot-Cor, so maybe duplicating the load with a handloaded Hot-Cor would be your best bet.
I have several boxes of Hornady ".275 Rigby" 140 grain Interlocks, but haven't tried them yet. I'll probably run a few through one of my Featherweights and into a pig or two just to see how they perform. My guess is that they'll act like any other C&C. I don't know why I don't just stick with Core-Lokt's and be done with it. But then, I'd be missing out on half the fun of shooting an "obsolete" cartridge, wouldn't I?
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358 Win. Would love to own one in a Savage 99 but, will happily keep my Ruger M77.
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Paul:
I hear you regarding the Winchester loads. I haven't seen any of it in either my LGS or any of the internet ammunition sites. I believe the 145 grain load is listed as a Hot-Cor, so maybe duplicating the load with a handloaded Hot-Cor would be your best bet.
I have several boxes of Hornady ".275 Rigby" 140 grain Interlocks, but haven't tried them yet. I'll probably run a few through one of my Featherweights and into a pig or two just to see how they perform. My guess is that they'll act like any other C&C. I don't know why I don't just stick with Core-Lokt's and be done with it. But then, I'd be missing out on half the fun of shooting an "obsolete" cartridge, wouldn't I?
RM Mike, the Winchester's would be Power Points. Core-Lokt's are Remington. Speaking of Core-Lokts, I have a tall Crystal Light can that holds 200 rounds of that remington bullet. I was thinking of using them in my .280 Remington but maybe my very fussy Mauser just might like them. I'll have to give them a try. I even have a large quantity of Remington brass. They'd look just like factory but more powerful. Now I won't get much sleep tonight thinking about that. Paul B.
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Paul. I bought a case (200 rounds) of 140 grain Core-Lokts last year from Target Sports USA. They shoot well out of all of my 7x57s. I'm working from memory as to what Winchester puts in their 7x57. Am I confusing them with Federal blue box? May that's the load with the Hot-Cor bullet, which would make sense since I believe Federal and Speer are owned by the same company. Mike
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Posted this pic several times. Now I'll post just for you Rev. Winchester Featherweight 7x57 using a 160 gr Sierra GK and an old 4x Weaver. Shot the mule deer at about 110 yds. The exit wound from the 160 gr Sierra,after going through both shoulders and the forward portions of the lungs.
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Though it may not be considered obsolete now, the 9.3 x 74R It was one of those old black powder rounds that survived the crossover to smokeless. I have it in a Ruger #1. It is an absolute pleasure to shoot. Coogs.
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Ken:
Excellent! That old obsolete cartridge still gets it done.
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Yup.
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The thing about most so called obsolete calibers is that there are so many more modern calibers that are basically the same thing..a deer shot with a 257 Roberts will die just the same as if shot with a 260 Rem...there's nothing wrong with the new stuff,but a lot of the oldies are just as good.
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Ken:
Resurrect the 7x57 thread on the reloading forum and post the load data. Or post it here and I'll resurrect it. I'm keeping a book....
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Ken:
Resurrect the 7x57 thread on the reloading forum and post the load data. Or post it here and I'll resurrect it. I'm keeping a book....
RM Here's the load. IMR-4350 46.0 grains Winchester Large Rifle primer 160 gr Sierra Game King R-P case Average is 2710 fps from a 22" barrel.
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MM ,,,for me, I would like to see the 9mm Mauser return. In today's chambering it would be .358x57 Between the 358 Winchester and the 35 Whelen. This! Got mine back from my shade tree gunsmith buddy last week. Venezuelan FN action, nice old sporter stock I got from a buddy, and a .358 barrel. Had to order a 9x57 chamber reamer (with .358 pilot) to get the caliber I wanted. I still have to install a barrel band with the front sling stud. Have only tried one load in it so far, the 250 gr Hornady RN with the top 9x56 Mannlicher load using 4320 powder. Three shot groups ranged from a low of 0.96" to 1.6". With no modern load data available for the 9x57, I'm a little reluctant to start pushing for max loads without a chrono. Plus, it's time to take it hunting and the 9x56 load will do just fine for right now. This isn't the only 'older' caliber I use. Actually, I try hard to never be caught in the woods with a normal caliber. Here's my Stevens 38-55 with the little buck it busted last year: This year, I'll be using the two above, plus the 250-3000, 7x57, 8x57, 45-70, and 7mmTCU (not old, but unusual, mine is a rebored M600 Rem). If you or Castnblast (or anyone else) can share any good load data with modern powders for my 9x57, I would greatly appreciate it.
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Wow, did you shoot that buck with the 38-55 or just go old school and club him with that scope?
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Forget the scope Azar, the barrel is what would do the job. The whole rig weighs in at about 12+ lbs.....a shooting house rifle only. Not something you want to do a walkabout with. The 9x57 at 8lb-4oz with the 6X Leupold will work a little better for stalk hunting.
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270 Win. or 35 Whelen or both!
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