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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
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Did you hear any deescalation employed by the paid police professional? Maybe something like this "Mr. Smith, I am a little bit worried about the traffic here, so could you help me keep things safe by waiting in your car please sir?"


What would have been proper procedure in that case? Wood did say that it was for his safety. Not trying to be a smart ass, I'd just like to know and not necessarily from you Paul.

Looks like they were pulled over in a parking lot.

IMO, when a cop asks you to get back in the car, you get back in the car.




I spent 20 years in federal LE and some time as a reserve deputy as well. I developed a reputation of being very good at gaining verbal compliance. Here's why. I didn't always expect blind obedience. I was humble enough to accept that my fellow countryman, a freeman, would sometimes want to question authority. In fact I kinda expected it from a fellow American. In many situations (the subject traffic stop included) the tactical situation allows a little soft handing and deescalation. You know, a little Andy Griffith. Consequently, he was my professional role model. If cops aren't willing to entertain a little passive questioning of their authority, they are in the wrong position and out of touch with the patriotic spirit of this country.


Excellent post. Great to know there are still some out there like you, rather than just the ones here on the fire with the " you shall suck my dick, and suck it NOW " attitude.


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there are more here on the fire that are the same, Pat is one of them.


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The guy was "JUST" Coast Guard....... at least that's implied by one member here.

You gotta be a Sheriff's Deputy or City Cop to have any clout in the CCC.


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Originally Posted by stxhunter
there are more here on the fire that are the same, Pat is one of them.


I wish they were more outspoken in support of U.S. citizens rights and the LIMITED role of LE!


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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
I spent 20 years in federal LE and some time as a reserve deputy as well. I developed a reputation of being very good at gaining verbal compliance. Here's why. I didn't always expect blind obedience. I was humble enough to accept that my fellow countryman, a freeman, would sometimes want to question authority. In fact I kinda expected it from a fellow American. In many situations (the subject traffic stop included) the tactical situation allows a little soft handing and deescalation. You know, a little Andy Griffith. Consequently, he was my professional role model. If cops aren't willing to entertain a little passive questioning of their authority, they are in the wrong position and out of touch with the patriotic spirit of this country.


You sucked your own ass so well, you inspired others to join in!

Impressive!




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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
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Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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hell if he was a jack boot thug i'd of been locked up the first time i met him.


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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
I spent 20 years in federal LE and some time as a reserve deputy as well. I developed a reputation of being very good at gaining verbal compliance. Here's why. I didn't always expect blind obedience. I was humble enough to accept that my fellow countryman, a freeman, would sometimes want to question authority. In fact I kinda expected it from a fellow American. In many situations (the subject traffic stop included) the tactical situation allows a little soft handing and deescalation. You know, a little Andy Griffith. Consequently, he was my professional role model. If cops aren't willing to entertain a little passive questioning of their authority, they are in the wrong position and out of touch with the patriotic spirit of this country.


You sucked your own ass so well, you inspired others to join in!

Impressive!

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Originally Posted by Fireball2

One day your smartass mouth may get your head stove in.


I would hate to be punched.

I had a good friend tell me that it hurts awful.




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Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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What is the CCC?


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This thread's getting as long as the 223AI, you all should start posting some tits, preferably big ones..


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Originally Posted by MadMooner
What is the CCC?


It's an acronym that indicates rape.

COCK!COCK!COCK!




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Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Well after watching that dash cam video.. now I know why the paid a 14,000 dollar settlement
Why?



Isn't it obvious?


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Originally Posted by curdog4570
Actually, most of the times I was arrested were in Ar.,Ms.,La., and Tx.

I only had one in Idaho, just N W of Rigby.

Bartenders are pretty much the same everywhere.

Except South Louisiana.


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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard


I spent 20 years in federal LE and some time as a reserve deputy as well. I developed a reputation of being very good at gaining verbal compliance. Here's why. I didn't always expect blind obedience. I was humble enough to accept that my fellow countryman, a freeman, would sometimes want to question authority. In fact I kinda expected it from a fellow American. In many situations (the subject traffic stop included) the tactical situation allows a little soft handing and deescalation. You know, a little Andy Griffith. Consequently, he was my professional role model. If cops aren't willing to entertain a little passive questioning of their authority, they are in the wrong position and out of touch with the patriotic spirit of this country.


I wasn't aware that Feds do traffic stops but hey...it's your story...tell it any way you want to...

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What's even more outrageous is the knowledge that the two deputies will likely suffer no harmful consequences for their actions.


Yup..The sheriffs announcement that he is ready to put them both back to work insinuates he has knowledge of just that, from the ISP investigation.

Like most everyone else in Idaho/Adams and Valley county,the sheriff felt it necessary to announce he sleeps with a pistol by his head board and a shotgun close by.REALLY...I just wonder where he keeps his bullet..

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Originally Posted by FieldGrade
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard


I spent 20 years in federal LE and some time as a reserve deputy as well. I developed a reputation of being very good at gaining verbal compliance. Here's why. I didn't always expect blind obedience. I was humble enough to accept that my fellow countryman, a freeman, would sometimes want to question authority. In fact I kinda expected it from a fellow American. In many situations (the subject traffic stop included) the tactical situation allows a little soft handing and deescalation. You know, a little Andy Griffith. Consequently, he was my professional role model. If cops aren't willing to entertain a little passive questioning of their authority, they are in the wrong position and out of touch with the patriotic spirit of this country.


I wasn't aware that Feds do traffic stops but hey...it's your story...tell it any way you want to...


Hey, that's a good point.

What federal LE entity does police work? Help us out, Andy.



Dave


Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by FieldGrade
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard


I spent 20 years in federal LE and some time as a reserve deputy as well. I developed a reputation of being very good at gaining verbal compliance. Here's why. I didn't always expect blind obedience. I was humble enough to accept that my fellow countryman, a freeman, would sometimes want to question authority. In fact I kinda expected it from a fellow American. In many situations (the subject traffic stop included) the tactical situation allows a little soft handing and deescalation. You know, a little Andy Griffith. Consequently, he was my professional role model. If cops aren't willing to entertain a little passive questioning of their authority, they are in the wrong position and out of touch with the patriotic spirit of this country.


I wasn't aware that Feds do traffic stops but hey...it's your story...tell it any way you want to...


Hey, that's a good point.

What federal LE entity does police work? Help us out, Andy.



Dave


Yea....I don't know why that jumped out at me but it did.
Personally....if a federal cop pulled me over for speeding I'd be prone to tell him to GFY....

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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by FieldGrade
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard


I spent 20 years in federal LE and some time as a reserve deputy as well. I developed a reputation of being very good at gaining verbal compliance. Here's why. I didn't always expect blind obedience. I was humble enough to accept that my fellow countryman, a freeman, would sometimes want to question authority. In fact I kinda expected it from a fellow American. In many situations (the subject traffic stop included) the tactical situation allows a little soft handing and deescalation. You know, a little Andy Griffith. Consequently, he was my professional role model. If cops aren't willing to entertain a little passive questioning of their authority, they are in the wrong position and out of touch with the patriotic spirit of this country.


I wasn't aware that Feds do traffic stops but hey...it's your story...tell it any way you want to...


Hey, that's a good point.

What federal LE entity does police work? Help us out, Andy.



Dave


He states he was a reserve deputy, both of you are such smart asses, you're really dumb asses.

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Originally Posted by FieldGrade

Yea....I don't know why that jumped out at me but it did.
Personally....if a federal cop pulled me over for speeding I'd be prone to tell him to GFY....


Not me.

After Fireball's stern warning, I am going to stop being a smart ass.




Dave



Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Originally Posted by mirage243

He states he was a reserve deputy, both of you are such smart asses, you're really dumb asses.


I didn't catch that.

Those reserve deputies really get after it.

My apologies.




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Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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