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And that Kasich (sic) fella is probably a nice guy and all, but all the hand movements reminded me of the the Schickelgruber.
Where's the funny moustache???? Yeah, what's with the karate chop hands all night?
"Hey jackass, get your government off my freedom." MOLON LABE
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Terrorists are cowards and they'll use their mom as a human shield. Kill'em all.
�Politicians are the lowest form of life on earth. Liberal Democrats are the lowest form of politician.� �General George S. Patton, Jr.
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...targeting family--because they are related to a combatant-is wrong.
BMT You just don't get it. They are killing our families--non-combatants. For every single one of us they kill, we should kill 100 of them. That is vengeance, not defense. Going to war against these devils is fine. Full uncluttered war is justified against ISIS Killing unarmed, noncombatant children is wrong
"The Church can and should help modern society by tirelessly insisting that the work of women in the home be recognized and respected by all in its irreplaceable value." Apostolic Exhortation On The Family, Pope John Paul II
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Collateral damage is one thing. It is heavily analyzed in targeting approval to mitigate the damage as much as possible. But sometimes unavoidable.
Targeting civilians intentionally, for whatever reason, is in clear violation of the Law of War. Every service member is taught over and over that you have a positive duty to disobey unlawful orders. This applies to the brass as well. And they know it.
If any President attempted to order intentional violations of the law of war, it would be rebuked at the highest level. No Combatant Commander would allow such orders be given his troops. No way in hell.
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Terrorists are cowards and they'll use their mom as a human shield. That is different than killing their mom to terrorize them. They endanger mom it's on their head
"The Church can and should help modern society by tirelessly insisting that the work of women in the home be recognized and respected by all in its irreplaceable value." Apostolic Exhortation On The Family, Pope John Paul II
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...targeting family--because they are related to a combatant-is wrong.
BMT You just don't get it. They are killing our families--non-combatants. For every single one of us they kill, we should kill 100 of them. That is vengeance, not defense. Going to war against these devils is fine. Full uncluttered war is justified against ISIS Killing unarmed, noncombatant children is wrong I have you told Isis that and that they should stop it?
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Says the advocate for the most corrupt female (and proven liar) in the history of US politics. What a talent for ignoring facts! I don't hand out accolades easily,but I'll make an exception in your case. You are so warped, I think you are damaged goods LOL! You need a shrink. Know any?
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Just curious, if Trump gets elected on a Republican ticket, could he defy convention and appoint Clinton as his VP? or invite other Dems to join his administration? Technically he could grab Hillary as a running mate, but she would never agree to that. He could fill his administration with democrats though. There has been much speculation in the British Press as to Trump's true motives/loyalties. Apparently he is a very good friend of the Clinton's and they have socilised together at several high profile public events in the last couple of years, including weddings ect. The story goes that a month before Trump announced his intenions to run, he phoned Bill Clinton and spent a considerable amount of time talking. Trump has not deigned this, but will not say what was discussed. The paper went on to speculate that Trump was essentially an undercover Democrate trying to destroy the GOP's from within...They noted that his actions fit perfectly with that.. I have said before that I have a very bad feeling about Trump and I think many folks here are going to be very unhappy when his true colours/motives come out.. Personally, I think he his intentions are to run as a 3rd Party independent and split the GOP vote leaving the road clear for Hillary...Alternatively, if he does manage to get into the Whitehouse, I think he may invite dems to be part of his administration under the guise of "unification of the country" or similar BS... I hope for you guys I am wrong, but my gut feeling about Trump is not good...
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The democrats would never pose as republicans
Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"
Liberal father: " I fought the Americans, along with all the other liberals."
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...targeting family--because they are related to a combatant-is wrong.
BMT You just don't get it. They are killing our families--non-combatants. For every single one of us they kill, we should kill 100 of them. Killing 100 of them for every single one of us is just wrong. It should be 1,000 10,000.
He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice.
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This was the best Debate so far CNN did a great job, What Trump means by America will be great again = to America will be the world bully again... we all saw what happen to US then, 90% of the world was against us.
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90 percent of the world hates us anyway. The american culture is being destroyed by immigrants that refuse to learn the language and others that wont assimilate into the main culture. We need to slow this down a good bit for a while and let the country digest who is already here. As far as muslims either Cruz or Trump is right, stop them coming here from countries where ISIS is entrenched and take only as many as you can do a good background check on. So in other words slow that process down a good bit as well.
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It does not matter if we like it or not.Everybody plays by the rules,the biggest kid on the block makes the rules.This cant be changed.It will be us or the other guy.Reality just is. This was the best Debate so far CNN did a great job, What Trump means by America will be great again = to America will be the world bully again... we all saw what happen to US then, 90% of the world was against us.
Ideas are far more powerful than guns, We dont let our people have guns. Why should we let them have ideas. "Joseph Stalin"
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America is a whorehouse. And a cheap one at that. Our populace is full of folks who know nothing of civics, they read and comprehend at middle school level. The average telephone has the entire worlds knowledge at its disposal and its used to look at pictures of cats and posyt what coffee you just had. The country in in the state that it's in because of morons, plain and simple.
TRUMP- GABBARD 2024
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That was a big blunder on Trump's part to suggest killing families of terrorists. Very poor judgment. Par for the course. IMHO Trump cannot stand up to scrutiny. Why? Not PC for you? The families of those San Bernadino murderers knew what they were up to... so... Kill them All - God wills it "Thou shall not kill" This goes both ways-the jihadists shall not kill you or me. We have an inherent right to defend ourselves. In times of grave danger (such as Jihad) we can apply direct force against an enemy. But targeting family--because they are related to a combatant-is wrong. BMT Lot of killing and war in the Bible, friend. By the most righteous of men, Joshua at the behest of Moses. David. Jesus himself was amazed at the Faith of the Centurion who must have been in battles and killed enemy soldiers and civilians and was not rebuked by Our Lord. Serbs, Croats, BosnianHertz and others who made up Tito's Yugoslavia all engaged in "ethnic cleansing" because of long simmering fueds and injustices of the past. It "is" kill or be killed. Muzzies here in the States do not have our best interests at heart and should leave. Melting pot is and always was bull s*it. The "Kill them All - God wills it" is a movie reference but apropo. One other thought: God sent the Angel of Death upon Pharohs people in Egypt because Pharoh would not release the Israelites. At the death of every "first born" Pharoh relented. Todays muslims are every bit as stubborn and at war with Western Civilization and in need of disciplining. War and killing to survive a relentless enemy is more than justified.
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Killing a combatant is acceptable in the face of Jihad
Killing a combatant's Mom to terrorize the combatant is wrong
Killing his mom because she houses a bomb making factory in her kitchen is fine, however. She is a combatant
Did the jihadist's mother convert to Christianity or renounce Islam? If not, then she is a combatant. All muslims are combatants All muslims are the enemy. ___________________ Kill them All - God wills it !
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I hope for you guys I am wrong, but my gut feeling about Trump is not good.. Pete, that is my feeling too. Make no mistake, I will vote for Trump in November if it comes down to him or Hillary, but never in the primary. Rubio was pretty smooth last night, on the parts that I watched. I do not like his gang of eight affiliation, nor his immigration policies, but once again, in November he gets my vote. My main man is Cruz. miles
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Did the jihadist's mother convert to Christianity or renounce Islam? If not, then she is a combatant. All muslims are combatants All muslims are the enemy. I do not think that we can annihilate all of them, but as a last resort, we should try. Target the active ones first, and see how that goes. Don't worry about bombing Mosques or other places where they hide for protection. Innocent deaths, if there are any, will be on their heads. I would not target schools or hospitals without intelligence that the combatants are using them for protection. We should try to do the humane thing as much as possible, but not so much as to hamstring ourselves. miles
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BMT, it's "tho shall not murder" at least that is the correct translation of the original text. Later it was changed to "tho shall not kill" the two do not mean the same. If we followed "tho shall not kill" then we could not "kill" to protect ourselves.
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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IIRC, the radical muzzies in the middle east were big on kidnapping western non-combatants like diplomats back in the Reagan years. They made the mistake of grabbing some Russians but let them go pretty quick after the KGB boys sent them the body parts of their family members. The muzzies never grabbed a Russian again.
I'm not saying that what the KGB did was right, but I understand.
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