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Yep, someone does and I'm damn proud of it.

It cracks me up every time.

SS isn't just a retirement plan for folks who saved poorly during their working years. It has become another welfare distribution system for millions of young/middle age scammers!

OBTW I'm one who's paid into SS for over 35 years and will never live long enough to recoup my money. It's been a scam on working folks since day one!

No reason for you not to be.

No reason for people not to be proud to accept the social security they've paid in to, either.

Never said they shouldn't. I've met a few able body 'men' getting SSDI.

I got into a heated arguement with one of my socialist buddies over .gov spending and 'who gets to make the decision on who gets a .gov check'.

He equated .mil pension with welfare.

Liberals can't analyze the problems we face very well and will just stop thinking and call it a 'conclusion'.

And were they damn proud of it?

Easy now folks.

Its the in thing to be offended by other persons statements until proven otherwise.

No reason to think a comment was made that didn't include a dig or personal attack.

Micro aggression!

Back to the political contribution topic. I'm not too worried about the Kochs. Has anyone heard who the masons are supporting yet?

Poor translation in the KJV. Better word is murder.



Other than that I agree with you. We like to think we are above killing innocents on purpose, that we take a higher road. It is fine to sit in out living rooms and think that but I can understand our guys in the sand box are often dead before they can decide who are the good guys and who are the bad guys and age and gender don't give any clues.

Still, I am not near ready to fight terror with terror. I doubt I ever will be ready for two reasons. First is the moral issue, committing murder, second if I really doubt the muslim extremist would care. They just want to kill everybody. Hell, they help strap bombs on their own families.

Ha!!! Don't forget the women & children....
I know a "woman" who was grossing over $2300 a month for herself & minor children who also were "disabled" with "learning disabilities"...

I'll post when and where I like. Somebody has to bring news from the outside world to the pea brains here on the fire. Can any of you refute the data presented in the chart I posted? Nope, didn't think so. Oh and as the OP, you can also feel free to, in the common vernacular here, GFY. And I mean that with all due respect.

Paddler, something that you[and those that think like you-read liberals]will never understand.
Just because someone is on the Republican ticket, or running to get on the ticket doesn't qualify that person for sainthood by republicans.
As for the democrats, it just doesn't really matter as long as that person has a D next to their name, it's all good and sainthood is granted.

As someone pointed out yesterday....Utah is a red state and therefore their electoral votes will go to the R's...so post away piddler but know that your vote...much like your opinion...doesn't mean chit....

And as for your link, it has a little tiny problem: NY Times

Did anybody see the chart that says piddler
sucks eggs?

My former stepmother faked a stroke, got some Indian doctor to sign off on it, and milked the SSDI system for years. She might still be doing it for all I know. That's in addition to the several broken down houses she bought for next to nothing, got her crooked insurance agent friend to write a policy on and burned to the ground to collect the insurance. She was quite a piece of work.

There's a huge difference between a retiree collecting social security payments after paying into the system for years (a pension) and someone on SSDI which is a form of welfare. There's also a huge difference between someone drawing a government pension which is compensation for past work and someone on welfare.

Democrats love the equate pensions and social security with welfare because they can use it to shut down criticism of freeloaders on the government dole by saying "look! you're on the dole too because you get social security or a military pension". It's a BS argument because social security and military pensions have been earned by the worker either paying into SS or their labor over the years. It's really no different than the "welfare for the rich" BS they spread. Congress sets tax rates at some ridiculous level then reduces it by 10% via a tax break and the democrats howl that the reduction is welfare for the rich. It's absurd of course, that money belonged to the taxpayer to begin with. Using that login why not just declare all earnings are 100% taxable then everything the government lets you keep is considered welfare. It's like saying I didn't steal your car therefore I gave you a car.

At least you can post your argument here without getting booted off the site because of your views...hell, you can even post obnoxious schitt & hurl insults if you like...try giving a well thought out response with links to some of the drivel posted on any site that is on the left side & see what happens...you don't even have to cuss or insult anybody to get the boot...You really wanna see some pea brains??? Try this one... https://www.facebook.com/OccupyDemocrats/

If they see you as a threat in providing factual, accurate information disproving their twisted version of "the truth", they'll take away your posting "privilege"...

Agreed.

The United States not a hostage taker.

At the same time, Obama shackling the military by skipping 1,000s of target opportunities because there's a non-zero chance of accidental collateral damage is equally wrong.

Let the military do their job and TRY not to hurt innocents, and never intentionally target non combatants. But if some get hurt when we take out high priority targets, so be it. War sucks and sometimes innocent people get hurt.

The key here is INTENTION. Intention to hurt non combatants is immoral and makes us no different than the terrorists. We can still take the fight to them, leveraging our superior equipment, superior intelligence, superior operators and superior training and ALSO limit collateral damage to accidents only.

Obviously, there are a lot of people on social security with most (but not all) having been forced to pay into it. I consider "being on the dole" to be more akin to unemployment benefits, welfare, charity or SSDI. Having paid both sides of SS for over 35 years, if they would only send me back what I paid in (even without interest) I would be more than happy to "get off the dole".