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I can agree some of the news media putting a spin on things but the live interviews from the victims is as close as you can get to the real real on the facts.They can't stray far from there sworn statements.

M eye witness accounts are not always 100% correct

I'm not sure if we should call them eye witness's or victims..They were thrown to the ground and cuffed trying to help Jack...

They have given sworn statements and the two officers have filed there reports and I suppose have by now given there sworn statements...Who would we believe just as the jury might have to decide?

Two officers discussing there reports prior to writing them so they agree on all counts and don't appear to have different memory of the events or those by the victims and again,not to forget the one who is not talking but was cuffed and thrown to the ground.

JWP..I know your smarter than to think whatever the officers say is exactly what happened with them both knowing this could be the end of there careers.Gunning down a neighbor over a Bull and they had to know Jack did not come there to harm them,he came because he was called,most likely by the deputies, I would only assume.

The sheriff said both deputies were cattle wise yet neither new how to dispatch a hurt bull and they both shot only to anger the bull more and belly shoot him.Jack new how but was grabbed and pushed at the moment of ignition,most likely.

Last but not least,Gerry Spence would not have taken the case if the officers did not step over the line,just like Ruby Ridge.

I would definate want to hear both sides, something that you obviously aren't interested in.

Excuse me...I want to here both sides also..I have a stake in this..I sure would like to here that the two deputies in a joining county to mine on a road I travel all the time,are not gun happy gunmen waiting for the next senior to drive into there county.

Do I have an opinion based on the victims statements,yes I do but I also realize all the t's aren't crossed in the investigation and that isn't the way we do things.Once that is done,we'll see.

Either way Jack is dead and there on paid leave thinking they did no wrong, as stated by Brian Wood.If nothing else,there both guilty of not giving a $hit shown by there actions at the scene after Jack was down and the Bull still layed suffering and throwing an old women trying to help her husband to the pavement.That was all wrong..F-uck the book..

.....not something I would do.

You are basing a lot of opinion on one side and only media reports, not something I would do

Let's see,two deputies with a history of violence on people over 60, with one a convicted poacher while a police officer in McCall Idaho and the other worked five departments in 15 years..I'll go out on a limb here and say they both have some serious issues.Certainly not Idaho's finest.

Funny how Jack's DUI is relevent but LEO and their groupies ignore the two officers past history.....

Rooland used to work for Parma PD and is an aggressive person.He through my grandma down off her steps,a 65 year old woman at the time without a reason.

No one is ignoring anything, but it is prudent to not rush to judgement based on media attacks.

So, somebody that lives SOMEWHERE in the "USA" is appointing himself the chief adviser to a host of people who KNOW the area, and resident folk.

Youmust have some serious creds !

I nominate you the "campfire director of prudent behavior".

"Smarmy" could well be incorporated,....

GTC

hell, you won't even say what part of the country you live in,...

Logcutter,....thanks for the continuing updates.

GTC

Hear no evil, see no evil. Just wait long enough for people to lose interest and any hope for justice, so it can be swept under the rug and business as usual.

Deputies from Adams County helped out at the old folks home, shoveled walks for the elderly, and helped my grandmother cross the street

OK time to let this die UNTIL the courts decide. All we have now is a bunch of clap trap arguing and pissing in each others wheaties going on. Let the courts decide and then we can argue facts.