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Has anyone tried this bullet yet? Would like to try it in my 300 RUM
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They're pretty hard to find them..... when they do show up on a website for sale thry clear out really quick. If it lives up to the hype its going to be a pretty awesome bullet for the 30 odd 6 and up!
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We killed 3 deer with them this fall. We used the 200 grn in .308, and they killed very well. They open exceptionally fast though, so be prepared for a large amount of bloodshot. I generally use BT's because they also open quickly, yet hold enough weight to penetrate. I'm used to having some bloodshot meat, but the ELD-X was more than I've ever experienced. All 3 deer were taken 125 yards and in, but out of a .308, the 200's were only going 2500ish.
I'm far from done with them as they penetrated well, and the animals died quickly, two DRT, and all penetrated at least to the off side, a couple passed through. Found one on the off shoulder with the jacket and core sperated, looking much like and expanded BT, just with much more bloodshot.
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It looks like they are nothing more than a crap SST with a new tip. If that is the case, then as was mentioned, there will be lots of destruction on moderate-range shots.
You did not "seen" anything, you "saw" it. A "creek" has water in it, a "crick" is what you get in your neck. Liberals with guns are nothing but hypocrites.
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I never have bought into the Interlock design, the only bullet that I've ever seen blow up on impact and not penetrate was a hornady100gr BTSP interlock from a .243 Win. The bullet hit the scapula of a Whitetail doe at 75 yards blew a crater and never penetrated the body cavity..however the blunt force killed the deer after it ran a hundred yards or so..
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The unslanted in field results should start stacking up soon. It's gonna be fun reading the reports. Just looking at it the bc's seem to be a stretch but we should know more soon.
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Has anyone tried this bullet yet? Would like to try it in my 300 RUM Midway has this bullet in stock. I now have some on the way..
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It looks like they are nothing more than a crap SST with a new tip. If that is the case, then as was mentioned, there will be lots of destruction on moderate-range shots. Outside appearances can be deceiving tho; the newer NBTs look just like the old highly frangible ones (100/box) but hold up very nicely due to beefed up jackets. I gave up on the SSTs early on for reasons you cite but have heard that their jackets have been similarly redesigned. Have no firsthand experience. I'll withhold judgment on the ELD-X till I hear from people firsthand. I'm interested in the 210 gr version in my 300 Weatherby & the 143 gr in my 260.
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I would like to try the 143 in a 260 and 6.5x55 and the 178's in a Sako 30-06. Lot's of bloodshot meat doesn't sound good from the report earlier on this thread but will have to see how others find them. Thanks for the feedback JohnChilds. We all know the campfire is great for unbiased opinions on bullet performance so look forward to others trying them, lol.
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It looks like they are nothing more than a crap SST with a new tip. If that is the case, then as was mentioned, there will be lots of destruction on moderate-range shots. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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If a 200 gr going 2500 fps does all that damage then forget it from a magnum.
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If a 200 gr going 2500 fps does all that damage then forget it from a magnum. I think we'll need to take more than one animal before we pass judgment. Take care
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^^^ Yes most definitely, lol.
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"Extend your range and never compromise at any distance! ELD-X™ (Extremely Low Drag - eXpanding) The ELD-X™ bullet is a technologically advanced, match accurate, ALL-RANGE hunting bullet featuring highest-in-class ballistic coefficients and consistent, controlled expansion at ALL practical hunting distances." http://www.hornady.com/store/ELD-X They are all heavy.
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Why didn't they put this tip on the A-max first?
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We will just have to wait until next year to get reports on expansion and performance on big game.
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I think it's BS, a way to Hornady to boost sales. I recovered a Nosler ballistic tip out of the snow when it melted in the spring at round 1000 yards and it didn't look to me if the tip melted. Bullets in question was the 30 cal 180gr ballistic tip fired out of a 300 wby match running 85.5grs of H4831 with the fps at the muzzle of 3457. Use that same load for the 178gr Amax but never recovered any of twhem.
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If a 200 gr going 2500 fps does all that damage then forget it from a magnum. I think we'll need to take more than one animal before we pass judgment. Take care There were 3 animals taken but I agree. My statement was made by hypothesizing that the tester's results were in fact 100% correct and reproducible.
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Why didn't they put this tip on the A-max first?
It's called the ELD-Match.
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I gotta laugh. I don't know if bullet manufacturers have us chasing our tails each claiming one bullet over another to ad nauseam, or if they're just incompetent.
It seems like the Hornady GMX would be a viable competitor to the Barnes ttsx, BUT, they can't figure out how to make it open up at long range. Why? The SST blows up. Again, why? ELD-X with and without a tip that does or doesn't melt, Holy Cow! The this the that to infinity, and beyond!
Why not make the perfect bullet, and stop production of all others? 100% weight retention, perfect full expansion at any reasonable velocity through any material likely encountered. Hint- tapered jacketed mono-metal with expansion initiating plastic tip!
Oh yeah, opinions sell bullets.
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