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Originally Posted by Big Stick


'flave,

Pard's Liljee 1-9" 17Rem,but the way he's goin' with it...she'll be mine soon.(grin) It's a MR contour at 20",but the pinhole makes the bitch look bigger. Handles/balances well and shoots a wee bit for a BB-Gun. It's fairly Faux Ti-esque,but shorter in the spout,which do not hurt the equation.

The trouble with the 17Rem,is same as any/all other thangs on any of the .378" cases,in that a 1-8" 223AI with 75A-Max at 3150fps from a 21" spout,simply fhuqking CRUSHES it. Goes back to boolits mattering more than a smidge.(grin)

'Course to reiterate,one can always fling 40's at 4000fps from same. Them's BITTER pills to swallow. Pass the 75's.

The best 17 goin' is the 17WSM in a 77/17 Fixed Fhuqked...and hacksawed off at 20". Zero Stop optional.



That seems like a bitchin' rig! What bullets are you using in it? I know you don't give a fugk but I will add that I don't want to shoot most any fur with a 75gr. A-Max and the the 25gr. .17 stuff keeps foxes put together better than most.

The WSM is tempting 'fer shure.' Especially since the prices on ammo came down.




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Originally Posted by Axtell
Hey 'Stick, why do you favor short spouts?


~He doesn't like rifles that are taller than he is.

~He's used to having a short "spout".

~He got drunk and cut his barrel with a sawzall and now has to pretend that he likes it.

In no particular order.

Happy New Year little buddy.

PS- I know, I know... crossed eyes, awesome buck for an avatar, vagina monologues, cant get off the couch, etc...

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Originally Posted by TheKid
Have a good bud who's killed 10 rams the hard way, ie on foot no Cub time, in the last 18 years. Furthest one he's killed was around 430 and half or better were under 100.

Not saying the Roy is the end all or that a 105 6mm won't out fly it, just that you don't always have to shoot them way out there.


Kid I agree with you on that but if you read about the 257 and then actually look at the bc of the bullets it's pretty disappointing. Granted majority of hunters don't care about the bc of a bullet

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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.

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79S,

Your original question was why a 100 grain bullet in the 257 Weatherby. You got a lot of fine answers. What I don't understand is if you say this:

"...then I got to looking at bullets and that's when I saw they all suck.. Am I a long range shooter no I'm not..."

and then this:

"...but if you read about the 257 and then actually look at the bc of the bullets it's pretty disappointing..."

Why do YOU care about the BC of a 25 caliber bullet? A 100 TTSX at 3650 (which I don't shoot, but that some liken to the BC of a rock) will kill anything in Colorado you have an interest in out to 500 yards with little effort and minimal guesstimating on drop. Just curious........


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'flave,

25V-Max.

If I was worried about selling fur...it'd be a straight up 17WSM Show with 20's at 3000fps outta a 20" spout. Ruger fhuqked up,by not putting a laminate handle on 'em,but plywood Hornet handles are easy enough to score.

Ruger rotary mags have no equal,the Precision is there,the terminal affects are there,ammo is dirt cheap and it's a straight up sleeper.

Fhuqk the 17 Rem........................















KchuntC,

I always enjoy your bitching about all the things you've never seen,done and can't afford. Funnier than fhuqk how "real" your Imagination and it's Pretend is,to you. You "lucky" kchunt.

Laughing!

Here's more pics for "your" album.

You can't buck 'em off,with flutes running to da' muzzle.

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You cain't buck the choke offa Annie 54 or it "won't shoot" either.

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Same goes AMT 10/22 spouts.

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It'd take wayyyyyyyyy more than a hacksaw,to aspook me.

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Who knows...you just might be the first Do Nothing Kchunt to bitch herself "happy". Congratulations?!? Don't let the cat get your tongue,or the couch your kchunt.

Very good call as per you always,to give ALL things The Rifle a very wide fhuqking berth. I wonder why that is?!?

Bless your heart.

Laughing!.....................















'S,

It's very easy to arrange a modest parcel,that'll do it all and then some...well shy of having to suffer a L/A or belts.

The upside bein',there ain't no downside.(grin).................















'330,

I'll feign my "surprise",that you "forgot" about your Imaginary Pretend Ignore. Laughing!

Your "grasp" on Ballistics is fhuqking hilarious!

Texan...ain'tcha'?!?

Wow +P++!....................


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Originally Posted by HEB330
79S,

Your original question was why a 100 grain bullet in the 257 Weatherby. You got a lot of fine answers. What I don't understand is if you say this:

"...then I got to looking at bullets and that's when I saw they all suck.. Am I a long range shooter no I'm not..."

and then this:

"...but if you read about the 257 and then actually look at the bc of the bullets it's pretty disappointing..."

Why do YOU care about the BC of a 25 caliber bullet? A 100 TTSX at 3650 (which I don't shoot, but that some liken to the BC of a rock) will kill anything in Colorado you have an interest in out to 500 yards with little effort and minimal guesstimating on drop. Just curious........


. I guess you are somewhat correct about shooting 500yds you still need a bullet with a good bc..

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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.

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Hey Stick, how's that 8x57(j) treating you? Any luck finding good .318 boolits? laugh

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'S,

Don't interfere with either her Imagination or it's Pretend,mainly because it's all she's got and THAT...would be mean.

Bless her heart..............















'17,

The Outdoors works well for me...always has.

Gotta take Sister to a plane,then go Cast & Blast.

It's rough...............(grin)















dooshmike,

No thang to either swage or procure outright.

When I'm in a LR Mood I go Pink Floyd Zulu on the bitch,with those super slickery .331" boresized BC's and generous mag confines.

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Never liked Volley Sights and am content with 2K irons only.

Gotta LOVE blued/walnut!.

Laughing!..................


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Big Stick - a couple of comments. I use a .17 Remington on fox. It works just fine, thank you.

It is easy to talk about how your gun performs, your best loads, etc. If you really want to tell how your rifle and loads are going to work I would suggest you read Accuracy and Precision for Long Range Shooting by Bryan Litz.

You would learn a lot about how barrel length and other items can affect accuracy, etc.

Instead of talking about a statistically worthless number of tests, results, do the math.


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240 Weatherby Magnum, 100r Partition:
MV: 3395
Drop@ 500 yards (200 yd Zero): -36.9
Bullet deflection 20mph X wind @ 500yds: 50.4"

257 Weatherby Magnum
100gr Partition
MV: 3555
Drop@ 500 yards (200yd zero): -31.1
Bullet deflection 20 mph X wind @ 500 yds: -42.9


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What he said....😉

Originally Posted by jorgeI
240 Weatherby Magnum, 100r Partition:
MV: 3395
Drop@ 500 yards (200 yd Zero): -36.9
Bullet deflection 20mph X wind @ 500yds: 50.4"

257 Weatherby Magnum
100gr Partition
MV: 3555
Drop@ 500 yards (200yd zero): -31.1
Bullet deflection 20 mph X wind @ 500 yds: -42.9


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Originally Posted by Big Stick
'flave,

25V-Max.

If I was worried about selling fur...it'd be a straight up 17WSM Show with 20's at 3000fps outta a 20" spout. Ruger fhuqked up,by not putting a laminate handle on 'em,but plywood Hornet handles are easy enough to score.

Ruger rotary mags have no equal,the Precision is there,the terminal affects are there,ammo is dirt cheap and it's a straight up sleeper.

Fhuqk the 17 Rem........................




You's trippin'.

But now I'm kinda interested more.



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Originally Posted by Big Stick
'S,

Don't interfere with either her Imagination or it's Pretend,mainly because it's all she's got and THAT...would be mean.

Bless her heart..............




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Don't wrestle with a Pig............


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'cause the pig likes it.........

and you'll just end up muddy....


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HNY there B'


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Originally Posted by 79S
That's why I asked the question because what stick brought up is what I was thinking he just explained it a lot better... The 100gr bullets have horrible BC the 115's are no better and the few120's out their are not much better. All I read is how this round is the killing machine but it makes me wonder how far folks are actually shooting... When I get back to Ak I'm going to get real serious again about getting a sheep and let's be honest the 257 is not what it is... I'm better off getting a 243 shooting 105 a amax bullets or jump up to a 260.. I know stick is no fan of the 7 mag but I would be better of using my 7 mag on sheep than a 257 weatherby.. Way better bullets out their especially the Barnes lrx bullet or the new hornady bullet.. Anyhow good info.. Will I keep it probably but I will not be using it in Alaska on a sheep hunt or goat hunt...


79,

Do yourself a favor and run some numbers before poo pooing the 257 Wby for your hunt. Out to 500 yds, a saami 243 shooting a 105 AMAX or HPBT ain't gonna hang with a 257 Wby when using a proper 115 gr bullet. Additionally, you better hope your .243 factory 1-10 or 1-9.25 will even stabilize a 105. Not saying it won't, but the possibility is certainly there.

For discussion purposes, here's what the numbers look like....257 Weatherby shooting a 115 Berger VLD at 3400 fps vs a 243 using a 105 AMAX(assuming your 243 will)at 2950 looks like this:

500 yds 257 has a +297 fps velocity advantage; +434 ft/lb energy advantage and 1.77" less drift. 10.02" flatter with 200 yd zero.

At a more realistic hunting range of 300 yds, the 257 has a +351 fps velocity advantage; +591 ft/lb energy advantage and .59" less drift.

Pretty substantial advantage to the 257 Weatherby. Although minimal, even betters the 105 in the wind.

I'm sure some folks here will shiat on the VLD or BST for use in the Weatherby due to their construction, but lets face it, the avg Dall or Mountain Goat at less than 300 lbs isn't going to be terribly tough to kill. Either bullet will work just fine.






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Originally Posted by 79S
That's why I asked the question because what stick brought up is what I was thinking he just explained it a lot better... The 100gr bullets have horrible BC the 115's are no better and the few120's out their are not much better. All I read is how this round is the killing machine but it makes me wonder how far folks are actually shooting... When I get back to Ak I'm going to get real serious again about getting a sheep and let's be honest the 257 is not what it is... I'm better off getting a 243 shooting 105 a amax bullets or jump up to a 260.. I know stick is no fan of the 7 mag but I would be better of using my 7 mag on sheep than a 257 weatherby.. Way better bullets out their especially the Barnes lrx bullet or the new hornady bullet.. Anyhow good info.. Will I keep it probably but I will not be using it in Alaska on a sheep hunt or goat hunt...


79,

Do yourself a favor and run some numbers before poo pooing the 257 Wby for your hunt. Out to 500 yds, a saami 243 shooting a 105 AMAX or HPBT ain't gonna hang with a 257 Wby when using a proper 115 gr bullet. Additionally, you better hope your .243 factory 1-10 or 1-9.25 will even stabilize a 105. Not saying it won't, but the possibility is certainly there.

For discussion purposes, here's what the numbers look like....257 Weatherby shooting a 115 Berger VLD at 3400 fps vs a 243 using a 105 AMAX(assuming your 243 will)at 2950 looks like this:

500 yds 257 has a +297 fps velocity advantage; +434 ft/lb energy advantage and 1.77 in less drift. 10.02 in flatter with 200 yd zero.

At a more realistic hunting range of300 yds, the 257 has a +351 fps velocity advantage; +591 ft/lb energy advantage and .59 in less drift.

I'm sure some folks here will shiat on the VLD or BST for use in the Weatherby due to their construction, but lets face it, the avg Dall or Mountain Goat at less than 300 lbs isn't going to be terribly tough to kill. Either bullet will work just fine.







I did exactly that earlier the bullet to use would be the 115gr ballistic tip or the Berger.. I guess the whole point of this conversation was why use the 100gr bullets they offer nothing when you are better off using the 115's. I guess guys like the velocities they are getting out of the 100 grain bullets.. Alot of good points brought up but let's be honest their are better cartridges out their.. Again I think guys just like to talk about shooting 100gr bullets at 3600 fps who knows..

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GDUB,

Your post with pictures is perfect for those who have difficulty communicating on an adult level. I presume our resident trolls have responded by regurgitating their usual white trash slandering. Wouldn't know, as IGNORE is working well in 2016. Some on here have claimed to have shot a bazillion 257 Weatherby rounds (but now can't stand the cartridge) and have nothing but denigrating comments regarding the Swift Scirocco, I'm pretty confident the basis for these flawed opinions is that neither the Weatherby nor the Scirocco fit the FORMULA preached (and eagerly consumed by many like attendees at a Jim Jones rally) that the ONLY way to test a rifle's ability is to kiss the lands and find pressure. While that is A way, the Weatherby"s freebore and the fact the Scirocco likes to jump a little put dents in the FORMULA. That may cause some to get their panties in a wad. Anyhow, what do I know? My imagination and pretend run wild so I'll have to remain ignorant and clueless, amazed that Scirocco's out of my 243 and 257 Weatherby don't either fall from the sky at 300 yards or bounce off deer and elk. Maybe one day I'll get a clue and discover an AMAX....


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As to the 257 Weatherby,

my Accumark was the cat's meow!

However,

I've Been There

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My go to load was a 100 Gr. Nosler Partition over 73 Gr. IMR 7828. Over my Shooting Chrony, velocity was +/- 3,650 FPS.
It flat killed schitt dead as a hammer.

Problem is, I'm a short range meat hunter. I'd say most of my shots are 200 yds. and under with say 80% of those being 125 yds. and under. I find that cartridges with a MV of 2,800 fps do much less meat damage at those ranges.

Consequently I've moved on.

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Somebody that biatches about swift scirocco's, simply ain't killed schitt with em... HINT

And they probably think a 17 hummer is a giant killer... grin


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