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Originally Posted by postoak
No one has addressed that, actually. If you were loading the .338-06, and .338 WM, and .340 Weatherby or even more powerful .338 of some kind, would your bullet choice differ?
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I have seen the 210 PT do some incredible stuff in elk out of a 338 Win Mag in the past. I know it is probably blasphemy but it penetrates really well, seems like the partition is moved sorta forward in it so it retains a good amount of weight and kills elk well.

If I was specifically hunting those ginormous brown bear in Alaska I might step up to a 250 PT or Northfork, but I wouldn't stay home if the 210 PT was what I had.

I would think your 338-06 should easily get 2400 with a 250 anything, and probably better. Good luck.


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Originally Posted by postoak
No one has addressed that, actually. If you were loading the .338-06, and .338 WM, and .340 Weatherby or even more powerful .338 of some kind, would your bullet choice differ?


I've captured quite a few .338/250 partitions in our Sitka BT's, so I doubt they'd pass thru a brownie. I'd want full penetration if at all possible. This leads you to the TSX/TTSX, or failsafe (good luck finding them).

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There has never been a 270 gr 375 Accubond.


I would go with EdM's suggestion of the 210 Partition and maybe add the 225 gr Accubond.


In 2008, I used the 225 gr AB on BC grizzly and black bear with all ending well. The 210 gr Partition has worked very well for me on a handful of elk.


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There has never been a 270 gr 375 Accubond.


I would go with EdM's suggestion of the 210 Partition and maybe add the 225 gr Accubond.


In 2008, I used the 225 gr AB on BC grizzly and black bear with all ending well. The 210 gr Partition has worked very well for me on a handful of elk.


Out of my 338WM, the 210 NPT has given good results. I also used the 225 Hornady IB in 2004 on a very good bear. Broke a shoulder and kept going. I've since switched to the 225 NAB and expect similar results.


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275 Speer has always worked for me in a 338/06.

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Originally Posted by postoak
No one has addressed that, actually. If you were loading the .338-06, and .338 WM, and .340 Weatherby or even more powerful .338 of some kind, would your bullet choice differ?


I've captured quite a few .338/250 partitions in our Sitka BT's, so I doubt they'd pass thru a brownie. I'd want full penetration if at all possible. This leads you to the TSX/TTSX, or failsafe (good luck finding them).


MM: Not yanking your chain,,,, smile but am curious about this, since i've killed a substantial number of deer a lot bigger than any Sitka black tail with piss ant 270,7mm,and 30 caliber cartridges, Partitions ranging from 130 to 180 grains. I've had a hard time keeping them in the animals and have had the overwhelming majority exit on normal shots.

Also seen the 210-225-250 338's used on elk with pretty much the same results (210's recovered going pretty much lengthwise).


Are you guys shooting these deer lengthwise or something? The 250-338 has been successfully used on Cape Buffalo.

How many times have you seen this happen? If it's frequent I'd be concerned, too.




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Only a sample of one, but .375 300 grain North Forks worked great for me, may want to look at their .338 lineup. Also, as mentioned TSX/TTSX or NP's would be right there as well IMO. Most all of the guides in my trips to Alaska were toting .338 Win Mags stuffed with 250 grain NP's, makes a lot of sense.

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Originally Posted by moose444
275 Speer has always worked for me in a 338/06.


I would think you meant the 275 in the .375, but Speer doesn't make one of those for that caliber either.

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I assume "BT" means blacktail deer. The comment about a 250 grain .338 bullet stopping in them made me skeptical too.

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No, I mean the 338/275 they used to make. Fantastic bullet, wish they would make a run again, I'm down to three hundred softs and at least that many solids.

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Originally Posted by moose444
No, I mean the 338/275 they used to make. Fantastic bullet, wish they would make a run again, I'm down to three hundred softs and at least that many solids.


True. Speer did offer a .338 275gr "Hot Cor", since discontinued, I believe. Swift still offers a 275gr A-frame. Some of the 300 heavies are more geared toward the Lapua cartridge.


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At those ranges one could also consider a heavy Woodleigh with high SD and terrific momentum.


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I load 210gr TTSX for 338WM for friends and they flat work...

Pard uses that in his 340Wtby, but that's a little bigger caliber as you know.


Yeah, those two extra thousandths make an enormous difference!


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I'm skeptical about using heavier bullets. Are some of you forgetting this is for a .338-06? I'm afraid anything above 250 would be going too slow to expand properly -- not sure about penetration.

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No, I mean the 338/275 they used to make. Fantastic bullet, wish they would make a run again, I'm down to three hundred softs and at least that many solids.


True. Speer did offer a .338 275gr "Hot Cor", since discontinued, I believe. Swift still offers a 275gr A-frame. Some of the 300 heavies are more geared toward the Lapua cartridge.


It is a pretty good shooting bullet in my 338 as well. Runs about 2650 or so with RL22 out of my gun. Shot it into water filled 1 gallon just and it did very well at that speed. Haven't shot anything with them, but it was found in the 8th jugs and retained about 180-190 grains if I remember correctly..

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If it was the SS Speer you were shooting at around 2250 or so out of your 338-06 I wouldn't worry about expansion, but with the super bullets like the 210 PT, 225 Swifts, Nosler's and Northforks, I would just enjoy the extra speed, cause they will penetrate as far and give you a little extra if you were required to shoot longer.



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I'm the odd duck when it comes to the 338-06. I've chosen the 180gr Nosler Accubonds and 200gr Nosler Combined Technology bullets.

I've found that the 180gr bullets will handle most game with ease and doesn't damage a lot of meat. I'm currently having a replica of my 338-06 built, a trusty 30-06. I may start using the 200gr bullets more in the 338-06 since the 30-06 will be loaded with 165gr pills.

Folks using the .225-.250gr bullets in the 338-06 are doing the right thing. They typically have a higher BC than the lower grain bullets in .338 caliber.

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Well, for me, and my 50-75 yards, BC means diddlysquat. SD is where it is at. The issue is to not have so much SD that speeds are so low that you lose too much shocking power.

I suspect that 210-225 is the sweet spot based on these posts.

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Originally Posted by postoak
No one has addressed that, actually. If you were loading the .338-06, and .338 WM, and .340 Weatherby or even more powerful .338 of some kind, would your bullet choice differ?


I've captured quite a few .338/250 partitions in our Sitka BT's, so I doubt they'd pass thru a brownie. I'd want full penetration if at all possible. This leads you to the TSX/TTSX, or failsafe (good luck finding them).


MM: Not yanking your chain,,,, smile but am curious about this, since i've killed a substantial number of deer a lot bigger than any Sitka black tail with piss ant 270,7mm,and 30 caliber cartridges, Partitions ranging from 130 to 180 grains. I've had a hard time keeping them in the animals and have had the overwhelming majority exit on normal shots.

Also seen the 210-225-250 338's used on elk with pretty much the same results (210's recovered going pretty much lengthwise).


Are you guys shooting these deer lengthwise or something? The 250-338 has been successfully used on Cape Buffalo.

How many times have you seen this happen? If it's frequent I'd be concerned, too.


Having shot quite a few huge bodied Sitka bucks I think you seriously underestimate the weights on the biggest bucks...


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Wikipedia says they are smaller than other subspecies of mule deer, about 120 pounds. Is that not right?

Its really hard to believe that even a 300 pound deer would stop a 250 gr .338 bullet.

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