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Nice work. I'll be using the 270 TSX. I have sent a bunch through Kodiak bears and have never caught one, even when shot end for end... In April I will be trying the same.
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Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
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Several 24hour folks have tags for the same time...
Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
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Great report, Steve. You didn't test it, but I had excellent results with the Swift A-Frame on Cape buffalo, kudu, etc. Here is the bullet the skinners recovered from my buff, penetrated near-side shoulder (shattered it), transected the top of the heart, and came to rest under the skin on the far side. Total penetration approx. 30", retained weight 292 gr.
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Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard
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BCSteve, Thanks for all the excellent pictures, data and thoughtful work on this comparison.
One of the very best comparisons I've seen.
Happy New Year!
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Couldn't have said it better. Those Swift's are pretty awesome bullets as well.
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Barnes 250gr TTSXAverage Penetration (inches): 18.3 Average Weight Retained (grain): 246.1 Average Weight Retained (%): 98.4 Average Expansion (inches): 0.738 Note: Typical TTSX performance.Hornady 250gr GMXAverage Penetration (inches): 19.5 Average Weight Retained (grain): 247.4 Average Weight Retained (%): 98.9 Average Expansion (inches): 0.753 Note: If this was a beauty contest, the GMX would win for sure. Very impressed with this bullet. I was surprised that it expanded deeper in its hollow point than the TTSX since the TTSX is supposed to expand to lower velocity. I haven't shot any game animal with anything by Barnes bullets in over 10 years but I might have to try the GMX next year!
Nosler 260gr PartitionAverage Penetration (inches): 17.83 Average Weight Retained (grain): 207.3 Average Weight Retained (%): 79.7 Average Expansion (inches): 0.690 Note: Typical Partition performance. The top lead portions are just sitting on top of those bullets, they are no longer attached. I'm thinking one of these three is going to be my bullet for my upcoming black bear hunt.
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Awesome Bullet test. That's a lot of work. Thank you for taking the time to do it.
Those 375's do have some awesome frontal area on them. What he said Looks to me like there is no "bad" choice in anything tested.
"Delight yourself in the Lord and He will give you the desires of your heart." Psalm 37, verse 4.
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Cool test Steve! 260 gr Nosler Accubond, recovered from black bear: Bullet was hanging in the off-side hide, after penetrating much of the bear, which was shot at about 15 feet or so. I've got that bullet around here somewhere. If I find it again, I'll weigh and measure it. Third black bear I've shot with the 260 Accubond, first bullet I've recovered. MV runs 2620 fps with that load. Regards, Guy
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Looks to me like there is no "bad" choice in anything tested.
Funny Mssgn said this. A brown bear guide I hunted with in Alaska told me he doesn't worry too much about bullets when a client shows up with a 375 H&H because so many of the bullets perform uniformly well.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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thank you for this review I might have to try that little 235 gr that was first on the list.
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I've got a few of those Speer 235's, and when I tested them I too was impressed.
A buddy has used them considerably on elk & mule deer with great success.
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Great report, Steve. Those CEBs are really "cutting edge", too bad they're so fugly! I took particular note of the Interlocks and it looks like the 270's "interlock" sits a lot higher, hence the greater retention. I used A Frames (300s) in my 375 and H&H on buffalo, but I'm a TTSX user now and that's what I use exclusively in almost every caliber.
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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Hornady 270gr InterlockAverage Penetration (inches): 18 Average Weight Retained (grain): 228.7 Average Weight Retained (%): 84.7 Average Expansion (inches): 0.90 Note: Very impressed with this plain vanilla cup and core. If you compare it to the Partition, it penetrated deeper, retained more weight and expanded wider! No sign of the core slipping. That is super impressive
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