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I'd put the CZ 452 or 455 above everything else in that price range.
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would a cz 452 out shoot a 77/22 laminate SS target barrel?
I have the 77/22, but long for a basic walnut / blue gun... Based on limited experience with 3 each of various CZs and 77/22s, I'd say either will do 3/4" with good hollow point hunting ammo and around 1/2" or better with good SS ammo that they like. Both can benefit from easy-to-do trigger mods. For hunting, it's a wash IMHO, but if teensy groups from the bench is your main requirement, CZs will likely edge the Rugers a mite, and for less money. I still like the Rugers better, for the handier safety, flush magazines, and availability of stainless. My RSI is as pretty as a kitten, and the full-length stock balances it out perfectly.
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would a cz 452 out shoot a 77/22 laminate SS target barrel?
I have the 77/22, but long for a basic walnut / blue gun... I've only had experience with two 77/22 heavy barrels, but neither shot quite as well as most CZ's I've had experience with.
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another one to throw in there that tends to fly under the radar these days is the Zastava MP 22 R, it was also imported for a time and sold as the Remington model 5. for 250.00 it will hang with the others all day.
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I don't know what the price is today on a Biathlon-7-2-KO by Izhmash but I bought mine from a high priced LGS for around $350 about 10 years ago. I added a Bushnell 3X9 scope on it and it is amazingly accurate in a sporter type model. The recess crown on the front of the barrel is about 3/4" deep and the barrel is free floated. Trigger is about 2 lbs. and with bulk ammo it will go .75" at 75 yards and with target grade iammo t will go to .50" at 75 yards providing the presence of a good shooter and the absence of any wind.
The toggle bolt takes some getting used to, and it would be a fantastic gun for plinking and squirrel hunting.
I use it sparingly as most of the jack rabbits I hunt are big time runners and the tricked out 10/22 with 25 shot mags is the ticket.
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Another vote for the RAR.
Not taking anything away from the CZ or the 77/22.....I have shot those as well and enjoy them just fine, but for the money it's hard to beat the American.
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As mentioned earlier, keep an eye on Whitaker's. They sell at a good price, too. Bud's sells at a $60-70 premium from Whitaker's, but allow you to "Make an Offer".
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savage mk11 with cci velocitors fluted bull barrel green syn stock scoped under 250 run with the best of em all day long................
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OK guys... im toying with buying a 455 and selling my heavy barrel 77/22.
Are 455's the ones that need special scope mounts? (metric?) Where do you find magazines? and how much?
What should I sell a very clean SS target grey barrel laminate stock 77/22 for?
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OK guys... im toying with buying a 455 and selling my heavy barrel 77/22.
Are 455's the ones that need special scope mounts? (metric?) Where do you find magazines? and how much?
Yes, the 455's have 11mm dovetails. I use Burris Signature rimfire rings. They come with clamps for both 11mm and 3/8" dovetails. The 455 magazines can be ordered directly from CZ's website as well as numerous other places. If you're local gun shop sells CZ's, they can order the magazines as well.
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OK guys... im toying with buying a 455 and selling my heavy barrel 77/22.
Are 455's the ones that need special scope mounts? (metric?) Where do you find magazines? and how much?
What should I sell a very clean SS target grey barrel laminate stock 77/22 for?
Don't sell until you try the 455 first.
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CZ makes a damn fine .22, also seen a couple Savage Mark IIs that will shoot right with anything and You may also want to consider the Zastava CZ-99(better known around here as the Remington Model 5)...
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OK guys... im toying with buying a 455 and selling my heavy barrel 77/22.
Are 455's the ones that need special scope mounts? (metric?) Where do you find magazines? and how much?
What should I sell a very clean SS target grey barrel laminate stock 77/22 for?
Unless you need the money to finance the CZ, ( my usual dilemma), I'd hang onto that 77/22. The older ones have slip-fit barrels that can be replaced with high-end aftermarket ones pretty easily and, given the current marketing mindset at Ruger, they could get the axe at any time, instantly increasing the value or yours. Just a thought.
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I have no interest in this ad, nor do I know the seller but am simply passing along what appears to be a decent deal on a CZ 455. http://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/22-model-455-cz-american.3892129/drover
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OK guys... im toying with buying a 455 and selling my heavy barrel 77/22.
Are 455's the ones that need special scope mounts? (metric?) Where do you find magazines? and how much?
What should I sell a very clean SS target grey barrel laminate stock 77/22 for?
Unless you need the money to finance the CZ, ( my usual dilemma), I'd hang onto that 77/22. The older ones have slip-fit barrels that can be replaced with high-end aftermarket ones pretty easily and, given the current marketing mindset at Ruger, they could get the axe at any time, instantly increasing the value or yours. Just a thought. Mines at least 15 years old so is that an slip fit? Can a person look that up by serial number?
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If your m77/22 is 15 years old it is a slip fit model. As I recall, November of 2009 is when the change over began. I can't recall the serial # range of the change over but a search on rimfire central or ruger forums should yield your answer if someone on here doesn't chime in with the info.
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The slip-fits have a clamping v-block like a 10/22 that holds the barrel in.
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CZ 452 in stock Whittakers as of 1-15-16 $369.99
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CZ 452 in stock Whittakers as of 1-15-16 $369.99 Enabler!!!! I just bought one and a spare mag. OK guys... what kind of scope rings do I need for a 452? Burris ring? Leupold Rings? I have a couple 2x7's to put on this, but I may spring for a Leopold rim fire scope to really match this. (4x or 2x7) My 2x7's are an older gloss redfield tracker, a gloss leupold vx1or2, and I may have a mmatte black 2x7 also. Now that you have made me buy it... help me accessorize please.
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CZ 452 in stock Whittakers as of 1-15-16 $369.99 Enabler!!!! I just bought one and a spare mag. OK guys... what kind of scope rings do I need for a 452? Burris ring? Leupold Rings? I have a couple 2x7's to put on this, but I may spring for a Leopold rim fire scope to really match this. (4x or 2x7) My 2x7's are an older gloss redfield tracker, a gloss leupold vx1or2, and I may have a mmatte black 2x7 also. Now that you have made me buy it... help me accessorize please. Go over to the CZ forum at rimfirecentral. They have a sticky about nothing but mounts. There is a sponsor there that sells an adapter so you can use the Burris Signature Zee rings if you want and several other options. There's also a sticky about trigger improvement options. I did the Yo-Dave kit for $20 and I'm very pleased. The 2-7's would be wonderful for hunting but I like a little more magnification to wring every bit of accuracy out at 50 yards. I like to be able to center the cross hairs on a bullet hole. I use the Leupold VX2 4-12 AO fine duplex on mine. I've shot flies off the paper at 50 yards.
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