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“I’m not going to end up in prison. I would rather die than be caged. And I’ve lived a good life.” The late Lavoy

Cramp?

I'd think if I was injured, I probably wouldn't be able to RUN from a vehicle. But thats just a guess. And I can remember my wife telling me one time that her cramps were so bad she thought she was dying, well I thought that was a stretch but maybe this guy just proved that cramps can kill you. But I doubt it.

What are the flashes at 35:26 and 35:34? Lavoy is shot and downed at 35:07.

Dude, it was a road block, he fled from a previous stop. The FBI wasn't there to hand out stickers, and LaVoy knew it.

A truck full of armed militia, one of which has sworn not to be taken alive, leads the police on a chase. Nearly runs over an officer attempting to avoid a roadblock. Immediately jumps out of the vehicle with hands up and then drops his hands to his waist when confronted by officers pointing guns at him. You really expect the officers to wait and see if he is reaching for a phone? Why would anyone reach for a phone at that moment? Mom calling at the worst time? Checking the latest posts on the Campfire?

I am glad I am not a cop. They are second guessed by keyboard heroes no matter what they do. If he had stopped the first time and followed the officers directions, he would be out on bail within a week. He wanted to go out like that and got his wish.

Unless being shot in the guts was the cause of putting his hands down, it almost does look like suicide by cop.

Then again, we were not there.

It sounds like you've already made your mind up or had it made up for you. I haven't. I'm looking at what is evidenced in the footage linked by the OP.

If you read the statement on the video, posted in the other thread, it states that those are flash bangs.

Used to disorient people.

Another fail. I actually was leaning hard his way after hearing the 18 year old's account. Watching the video makes things pretty clear to the rational.

Look forward to seeing the ground level videos with sound. With that many LEO, body cams, and dash cams, got to be lots of good footage. When was the first shot fired? Whole lotta questions can be answered with the ground level videos with sound. YMMV

An ambush? Really???

The police tried to stop him several miles down the road, and had him stopped for what, nearly ten minutes before he obviously decided to make a run for it. It seems to me the police prepared for that possibility and were set up with a roadblock down the road.

Everybody in that vehicle had ample opportunity to give up and chose not to do so. Additionally, we've all seen hundreds of pictures of Finicum over the past few weeks. I may be wrong, but I don't recall a single photo of the man in which he wasn't carrying a gun. Why would you then assume he was unarmed during the attempted traffic stop?

Finicum has also been very vocal that he'd die before he'd spend time in prison. With apologies to all of you cop haters and Finicum worshipers, it looks to me like the man was true to his word...

Chris

I have not been following this. What I saw on the video was a guy with his hands in the air get shot. At that time he brought his hands down. If I was on a grand jury the family would get all they ask for.

I didn't watch the video from two days previous where Bundy and Finicum met the lead FBI guy out at the airport. I just read the account that they were there and walked-out of the meeting because the FBI guy in charge would not allow their meeting to be recorded. Was Finicum armed at the meeting, possibly being the last time the FBI would have seen him?

Can't fault the cops on this shooting.

The guy did a piss poor surrender if that's what he was attempting to do.

There were people still in the vehicle who needed to be secured before you can render aid. He damn near ran over one officer. When his hands went to his waist, I'd have shot him too.

To me, it looks as though he exited the vehicle with his hand high (not completely up, but outstretched at shoulder height). I couldn't see whether he had anything in is hands, but it does appear that hid did lower his arms (was this before or after being shot" - can't tell).

I do not know whether the actual stop and shooting was performed by local, state or Federal officers - does anyone know?

Regardless, this is a tragedy.

Yes, this is interesting; I thought the same thing. Aren't such tapes kept as evidence and not released anytime soon?

There is a lot that is tragic in this world.

This doesn't even register.

He could have been attorney general


http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/30/a...-former-columbia-university-rotc-office/

Haven't seen anything from that meeting, so don't know. All the photos I've seen of his media interviews have shown him packing.

Chris