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During the exit interview meeting after I had given two weeks notice of my retirement, my manager told me that I had a job with the company for however long I wanted to work there. Careful financial planning allowed me to retire two years before age 66 which was the government mandated retirement age. Retirement is the best job I've ever had. As regards two weeks notice, I have always given two weeks notice of leaving a job and the employer has allowed me to work the two weeks. I have seen instances where employers ask the employee to leave upon giving notice feeling that little productive work would get done in the two weeks and it sould have a negative impact on the morale of the remaining employees. In the case of a layoff, I have been walked out the door at the conclusion of the notification meeting. Two employers were even big enough dirtbags that termination my employment was not enough. One stopped payment on my final paycheck and the other called unemployment and told them some kind of lie that delayed my ability to collect unemployment. In neither case was I terminated for cause, just due to personality conflicts in spite of my best efforts to satisfy them.

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Originally Posted by 6mm250
I've known several people that when they gave 2 weeks notice they got fired on the spot.


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I've heard of that too. California is an at will state with no notice being necessary and termination pay has to come within 24 hours (I think).


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I have been let go after I have given my 2 weeks notice. I have also been given a months notice of being layer off, they got pissed when I went out and got another job the next week. I guess it depends on the employer and situation. Never had a severance pay. WTF are those??? laugh

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I'm hoping to be in a position to give notice in the next few weeks. (The fewer the better as the situation at my workplace is becoming untenable)

I'll give 2 weeks, but knowing the disposition of the manager, I fully expect to be let go nearly immediately. If I'm wrong and they keep on for those 2 weeks, I expect the c-word of a manager to make it as miserable for me as possible, if, in fact, she can make it any worse.

I've given 2 weeks notice in the past only to be shooed out within 3-4 days and in another situation, given the cold shoulder for the full 2 weeks. The treatment is up to the owner, but I still feel it's right to offer at least 2 weeks.


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Originally Posted by 6mm250
I've known several people that when they gave 2 weeks notice they got fired on the spot.


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This.

IME, if the employer likes you then they will keep you for the 2 weeks. If they don't, you're gone when you give notice and without income abruptly.


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I've always believed it best to not burn any bridges on the way out. Sometimes what looks like greener grass, isn't. You never know if circumstances may change and you may have to come back. I would like to keep my options open.


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Someone above mentioned honor. Is there not honor in looking out for one's family? Seems to me that companies sometimes set the terms on how things go. That's one of the things that's crappy about not working for yourself.



I had no family back in those days. Just me.
But I see what you mean.

Now that I'm 15+ years self employed the thing that pisses me off most is I can't lay me off nor accept 2 weeks notice.

I'll probably leave this job on bad terms. The boss is an ass hole.

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I *have* given notice. It depends on the circumstances.

Sometimes it's just best to pack up and go.

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No always,but severance pay is usually in lieu of notice.


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Someone above mentioned honor. Is there not honor in looking out for one's family? Seems to me that companies sometimes set the terms on how things go. That's one of the things that's crappy about not working for yourself.



I had no family back in those days. Just me.
But I see what you mean.

Now that I'm 15+ years self employed the thing that pisses me off most is I can't lay me off nor accept 2 weeks notice.

I'll probably leave this job on bad terms. The boss is an ass hole.

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Son in law got laid off last Monday...worked his a** off all the last week moving office ...spent weekend in hospital discovering the stress of the job gave him an ulcer...was at home recovering when his boss texted him to call him...to tell him he was laid off!....he did get 3 months severance pay but this was just cold and unfeeling....

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I've known several people that when they gave 2 weeks notice they got fired on the spot.


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Technically illegal.




The company I work for unless you are very valued employee or have been there a long time if you put in your two weeks notice 9 times out of 10 they will let you go on the spot. The only time I haven't seen this happen was when they were shorthanded or they just genuinely liked the employee. Said company will fight tooth and nail not to pay unemployment a different matter I know. But I can also say that they have never had a lay off for the entire 17 years I have worked there.


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Originally Posted by KFWA


I do know this - its never a good day for someone if you show up and 2 extra security guards are waiting in the lobby.


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I had a great job, working the third shift on my own. I got a call one morning:

Coworker: "you still here?"
Me: "yeah."
Coworker: "boss wants you to come to the engineers office"

So, I walk into the engineers office and there is Howard (the guy that called me), my boss, the director of security, and TWO security officers.... Oh schit, this don't look good at all....
I stood there looking dumbfounded for a second before Howard finally smiled broadly and said "have we got a job for you!"

They had purchased a pellet rifle and wanted me to (discretely) shoot the pigeons around the cooling towers on the roof at night.



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I have given many notices and would offer the Traditional, American customary 2 weeks notice.

Having said this, I would expect schitty, uncustomary employers to boot you out immediately. Expect IT to lock you outta your computer in 20 minutes and to be escorted out with authority figures immediately.

Always plan for this.....with your next job starting right away.....particularly if you can't bankroll a couple weeks w/o pay.

It's disappointing the way American employers have severe ego problems these days.


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Originally Posted by silver78
So why do we employees continue to honor this old tradition of giving two weeks notice. Are we collectively a bunch of suckers?

As others have said, it is more about my personal code of conduct. I worked for a company run by one of the biggest a-holes in this city. I gave a 2 week notice when I left because I'm not the a-hole, he is.

Additionally, I would be very cautious of a prospective employer that told me they needed me to start immediately and not give notice to my current employer. If they are running their business in a way that puts them in the position of needing you NOW and cannot get by for two weeks and don't give a flip about you doing the honorable thing with your soon to be former employer...that should pretty well tell you how they will treat you also.


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The company I work for is looking hard at replacing me.

I can't hardly wait as I'm all for it.


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Yesterday was my last day at a place I have been for four years. I still have the keys to the front door and the gate in my pocket.

Never been let go on the spot, but have seen it happen to others. I always seem to be the whore they want to get as much out of until I'm gone.

No matter that the boss might be an aszhole, what makes you is your actions.

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Originally Posted by Hombre

Always plan for this.....with your next job starting right away.....particularly if you can't bankroll a couple weeks w/o pay.

I planned for it. No issue with finances. I planned to take a week off and offer to start the new job a week early, but the schitty old job kept me on for the last two weeks. frown


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Anybody know how two weeks became the magical amount of time?

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I've never been given a notice. In fact twice the owner has met me at my truck AFTER I unloaded the survey equipment and was getting in to drive home.

OTOH I've never not given sufficient notice on my end. And as much as when I leave my current job, sooner is better than later..., I will very likely give them quite a bit of heads up. The azzholes that run it can answer to a higher being later on....



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