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In other news, Kimber is chambering the Montanas in 6.5 Creedmoor this year, so that should meet your needs.
The web site states it will be a 12 twist. Hope that was a typo. Yeah, let's hope so.
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In other news, Kimber is chambering the Montanas in 6.5 Creedmoor this year, so that should meet your needs.
The web site states it will be a 12 twist. Hope that was a typo. Yeah, let's hope so. Call and ask.
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Mama always said, "Ugly is as ugly does." My Tikka T3 synthetic stainless in 6.5 Swede has yet to shoot a group as large as an inch, and weighs right around 7 pounds with a scope. Sure the barrel is less than two feet, but not enough to make a difference any deer has noticed.
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Howa Grendel may Surprise you on how effective this may be. If I hadn't already put together a Scoped 7lb 10oz CZ 527 in Grendel I likely would have been jumping On the Howa this year. Could have got by with a lot less scope to get this easily down under 7 & 1/2 lbs If the CZ527 Grendel turns your crank you may pick up a action from Buds for $400 and change. If it were me I might send it off to Pacnor to be barreled in 6.5 Grendel. Think you may get a fairly nice stock for less than $200 though I would still want to glass bed the recoil lug and the tang. If you like the Creedmoor or 260 Remington I bet the Tikka would serve you well. IF you want to go real inexpensive the RAR predator may serve your needs 6.7 pounds and still needing glass. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=540640558
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Put feelers out for a 1994 Remington Classic, 6.5x55 with a 24" barrel.
They're out there but may take a little while to locate. I've noticed Classic Collections liquidated from time to time.
These were advertised with the 24" barrel but few came that way.. Most came with the 22" barrel.
Sorry for the misinformation.
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Not a huge Remington fan, but I do own a Model 7 in 260 that has killed every big whitetail here in NE quite cleanly that I have shot at. Nice handy little rifle!
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I think my M85 Finnlight 260 was about a half pound lighter than the spec. Still clocks good numbers with the 20 inch barrel. I have a couple of M85 hunters, and I only shoot them at the silhouette range. They have a couple more inches of barrel, but weigh substantially more. No need for long barrels or magnum cartridges in mt area. Weight is a bigger issue.
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Why can't a guy buy a 6.5 off the shelf that weighs less than/equal to 6.5 lbs and has a 24" barrel?
I'm getting older. I'm planning to migrate from elk hunting do deer. I don't really want a 9/10lb rifle for that. In the next year or so, I'd like to pick up a lightweight 6.5 that has some physical appeal (Rules out Tikka) and is capable of delivering at 600yrds. I've been trolling around on the production market, and I don't see it.
I assume all of the "light" rifles prefer to go with a short barrel because they're easier to make in a slim contour and still achieve some accuracy? Not sure of the weight but this should come close to filling your dream rifle without having to do any upgrades, stock changes, etc. drover
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Thanks for all of the interesting replies. It remains odd to me that there is little market demand for a 24" .260 Rem...at least few offered. Remington doesn't offer many chamberings for this round in any conformation. Seems like a great little cartridge. It really makes more sense to me (Biased by living in the west and reloading) than many more popular rounds (.243, 7mm-08, 308, .270). Maybe I'm just bored and want something different?
I plan to surf around for a few months and see what turns up on the used market. I may try to build one out of a M700, but more likely, I'll try to find a Sako M85 Stainless Synthetic. At 22" and change, it's probably an adequate compromise. I like Sako rifles. The fit/finish on the ones I've looked at seems to be superior to most I see. I'm somewhat intrigued by Kimber, but the Montana's I've looked at were just so/so for finish and I'm not convinced they will be as accurate as a Sako or semi-custom Rem. The 12 twist would be a deal breaker if that's true. I will try to take a look at the X-bolt, but for whatever reason, I've never been crazy about Browning in the past.
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Seems like a great little cartridge. It really makes more sense to me (Biased by living in the west and reloading) than many more popular rounds (.243, 7mm-08, 308, .270). It is a great cartridge. Mine (Ruger 77 all weather) kicks about like my .243 and shoots more like a 25-06 with light bullets and a 270 with the heavy ones. Should be more popular than it is and would probably suffice for 90% of hunters in the US today.
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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It remains odd to me that there is little market demand for a 24" .260 Rem...at least few offered.
It really makes more sense to me (Biased by living in the west and reloading) than many more popular rounds (.243, 7mm-08, 308, .270). Maybe I'm just bored and want something different?
These are MY thots on your subject: A. How many S A cartridges with 24" blls. have been produced/accepted in the mfg. business. For MANY yrs it has been the 'norm' for S A - non mag cartridges to have 22" blls. The 'short fat' or S A mag rifles have only come into vogue in relatively recent times. B. Could it be ? the more popular rounds have had many yrs. to get 'entrenched'? Most of US here are loonys and MOST of the gun market buyers are NOT. The more popular rounds accomplish the jobs for the majority of hunting situations by the average hunter SO... why should they be looking for 'little better' ballistics when many don't know what ballistics means?? Jerry
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I think my M85 Finnlight 260 was about a half pound lighter than the spec. Still clocks good numbers with the 20 inch barrel. I have a couple of M85 hunters, and I only shoot them at the silhouette range. They have a couple more inches of barrel, but weigh substantially more. No need for long barrels or magnum cartridges in mt area. Weight is a bigger issue. Last year with my Sako 85 260, I had 5 does running across a 200yard field, I saw them about half way, and 2 of them made it to the other side. No kick, smooth shooter, 3 deer down in a matter of seconds. All good.
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It remains odd to me that there is little market demand for a 24" .260 Rem...at least few offered.
It really makes more sense to me (Biased by living in the west and reloading) than many more popular rounds (.243, 7mm-08, 308, .270). Maybe I'm just bored and want something different?
These are MY thots on your subject: A. How many S A cartridges with 24" blls. have been produced/accepted in the mfg. business. For MANY yrs it has been the 'norm' for S A - non mag cartridges to have 22" blls. The 'short fat' or S A mag rifles have only come into vogue in relatively recent times. B. Could it be ? the more popular rounds have had many yrs. to get 'entrenched'? Most of US here are loonys and MOST of the gun market buyers are NOT. The more popular rounds accomplish the jobs for the majority of hunting situations by the average hunter SO... why should they be looking for 'little better' ballistics when many don't know what ballistics means?? Jerry A titanium screwdriver is still a screwdriver. Same for rifles. 260's easily dupes/exceeds some 270 ballistics, and a 270 easily dupes/exceeds some 7Mag ballistics. Plenty of attraction getting more for less and letting physics do the work, tinkering, yadda, yadda. If you've the time/money/interest, its pretty fun. At the end of the day though, schit dies....
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why should they be looking for 'little better' ballistics when many don't know what ballistics means??
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A titanium screwdriver is still a screwdriver. Same for rifles. 260's easily dupes/exceeds some 270 ballistics, and a 270 easily dupes/exceeds some 7Mag ballistics. Most people aren't buying 'titanium' screwdrivers. Remington TRIED to sell the 260 as you mention---the public does NOT buy it. MAYBE in 'some' applications with smaller mono bullets the 260 MIGHT outdo the 270 but I can give many instances where it CAN NOT. In most NORMAL loads the 270 does NOT exceed 7 Mag ballistics. I know we have new powders and mono bullets we didn't use to have but that's not apples TO apples. You may buy it>>>>I don't YMMV Jerry
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An ADDENDUM:
The buying public are NOT handloaders and so can not avail themselves of some advantages.
We handloaders are not given sufficient priority for them to supply US with brass, bullets, and primers for our needs.
The factory rifle mfgrs are not supplying rifles for US loonys and so TILL that changes our options are 'custom' or semi-custom builds.
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And I highly doubt an extra 2" of barrel on a 260 or 6.5 Creed will add 100-200fps to the velocities realized by a 22" barrel. 100fps would be pushing it, as these are fairly efficient chamberings.
^ That. 22" is perfectly fine which means no hole exists and all is right with the world.
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why should they be looking for 'little better' ballistics when many don't know what ballistics means??
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A titanium screwdriver is still a screwdriver. Same for rifles. 260's easily dupes/exceeds some 270 ballistics, and a 270 easily dupes/exceeds some 7Mag ballistics. Most people aren't buying 'titanium' screwdrivers. Remington TRIED to sell the 260 as you mention---the public does NOT buy it. MAYBE in 'some' applications with smaller mono bullets the 260 MIGHT outdo the 270 but I can give many instances where it CAN NOT. In most NORMAL loads the 270 does NOT exceed 7 Mag ballistics. I know we have new powders and mono bullets we didn't use to have but that's not apples TO apples. You may buy it>>>>I don't YMMV Jerry An ADDENDUM:
The buying public are NOT handloaders and so can not avail themselves of some advantages.
We handloaders are not given sufficient priority for them to supply US with brass, bullets, and primers for our needs.
The factory rifle mfgrs are not supplying rifles for US loonys and so TILL that changes our options are 'custom' or semi-custom builds.
Jerry Pretty much what I'm saying. Joe Public loves his 270 with Corlokt's, my 260 with 108 Scenars smokes it from the muzzle to the dirt. A 270 with 140 NAB's against a 7 Mag with the same and only your barber will know the difference. Try 110 TTSX in a 270 and 120 TTSX and it's the same song. You can get run over by an empty dump truck or a full one but you won't know the difference. Trick is you gotta build you're own dump truck. I say if you've the time, have at it. That's the point. Numbers don't lie and you know anyone handloading ain't duping some cheap off the rack factory fodder. Plenty of public buying 260's and Laupa brass is easy to find. Now, if you wanna talk about a fella buying a few boxes of ammo a year, 260 ain't gonna be friendly as far as choice/availability. Odds are he wont know the difference anyway.
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Trick is you gotta build you're own dump truck. I say if you've the time, have at it.
And that is the answer to the OP - What's wrong with the 6.5 market? Maybe Offline New Member Registered: 02/01/16 Posts: 4 Why can't a guy buy a 6.5 off the shelf that weighs less than/equal to 6.5 lbs and has a 24" barrel? ____________________________________________________________ And that is what I was saying above on this same page. Jerry An ADDENDUM: ... so TILL that changes our options are 'custom' or semi-custom builds.
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