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I have a recipe that I've made before and we like it, but have a couple questions.
Smoked ham hocks: Is one enough? Is two too many?
It has been advised in bean threads to not add salt until cooking is complete. Should the hocks be added early or late?
Last time it took a long time for the beans to cook and soften. I had soaked the beans overnight, rinsed, added ingredients and brought to a boil, simmering about all day. Other cooking method?
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I put the pork right in after the beans come up to temperature. Pretty much stopped using store bought smoked ham hocks. Using mostly smoked shanks now. More meat on them, in my eperience.
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On second thought. the hocks may be gone (from our pigs). It may be ham bones in the freezer.
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In Texas we use Smoked Bacon 1/4 pound per pound of beans. Also add salt last 15 min before beans are done. Makes a difference. Good luck on beans
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Salt them when done otherwise the salt will make them take longer to cook. Add the hocks when you start cooking them. I also like to peel an onion and throw it in as well. I either soak overnite or bring to a boil and then take off the heat and let soak an hour or two then rinse and cook. Sometimes they just seem to take longer to cook than other times, I've read that the older they are the longer they can take to cook. Now all you need is a big 'ol pan of cornbread.
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I cook the beans separately in a pressure cooker.The age of the beans make a difference, but unsoaked fairly fresh beans takes me 11 minutes to cook and that is with running cold water over the pressure cooker when that 11 minutes is up. If not, and you let it cool slowly,the beans will keep on cooking and be mush.This is for 2 cups of beans.( you might have to experiment with the first batch to get the right time)
Then drain the beans in a collander. Don't use the water they were cooked in and you won't get much gas from them when eaten.
I quit using hocks etc. and use diced ham . Either from a ham we cooked or I buy a ham steak and dice it. I use about a pound of diced ham.That way,you get to eat everything you pay for and get the same flavor as smoked hocks. If you want more smoke flavor add liquid smoke.Don't add more salt.
Put all your ingredients in a big pot and use beef broth instead of water for any liquid you add.Simmer down to the consistency you like
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Here's the recipe I've used:
1# (2 C) pintos 2-15 oz cans chicken broth 1 large onion, minced 1 jalapeno, chopped 1/2 C green salsa 1 t cumin 1/2 t black pepper.
They were fine without added salt. I was concerned with the salt in the ham hunk making the beans tough. Not a worry?
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We ate at Mi Tierra in San Antonio over Christmas, my wife had to try and mimic their beans, this is pretty close-After making these a couple times, I prefer the bacon over ham, and I am a huge fan of ham
1 teaspoon lard or vegetable oil 4 slices Bacon 1/2 Onion; chopped 2 Jalapeno peppers; Fresh, stemmed and chaopped 2 cloves Garlic cloves; minced 6 cups Pinto beans; Beans and Bean Broth 1 tablespoon Salt 1/2 teaspoon Ground cumin
Cooking the beans and broth: Sort beans removing stones and dirt. Rinse. Place in pot. Add 8 cups of water. Bring to a boil. reduce heat, cook on low for 6 hours, or until tender.
**Crock pot version-2 hours on high, or 6 hours on low.
After beans are cooked: heat oil and fry the bacon and onions together over high heat until the onion is golden. Add Chiles and garlic. Cook one minute more. Add salt and cumin. Add cooked beans mixture. Simmer 10 minutes
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Gas a problem after eating beans? Beano is your friend.
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La Margarita in San Antonio is also good. Been there forever. That recipe looks like a Tex Mex recipe. Will try Thanks
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I don't suffer from gas after eating beans.
I actually enjoy it. Those around me, not so much.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli
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Cooked in my dads Mexican clay pot over mesquite coals. Add onion, garlic, 1/2 seranno pepper, cilantro, fresh cracked black pepper, cumin to taste, bacon and salt after cooking. BP...
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Man the clay pot just makes them look all that much better.
Need one of those.
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I put the pork right in after the beans come up to temperature. Pretty much stopped using store bought smoked ham hocks. Using mostly smoked shanks now. More meat on them, in my eperience. LD's spot on with smoked shanks.....I use one med size shank...one sweet onion....and a quart of chic/veg stock.....throw it all in the pot.....bring it to a boil.....put the lid on (ajar)....and let it cook for 3-4 hrs......add water if needed... Following SaddleSores's advice...I've added a can of diced tomato's and a large can of mild green chili's to the last two pots....best pinto's I've ever made...... Matter of fact...I'm eating left over Pinto's tonight.... PS....don't add ANY salt.....pepper...cumin....cilantro...are all fine if you like but no salt....
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I agree. No salt til done. Better luck cooking beans separate up in higher elevation. Near sea level them beans cook a lot faster. Seems you can even add salt before they are done but I try not to.
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Man the clay pot just makes them look all that much better.
Need one of those. This pot is at least 50 yrs. old. and my dad said he got it out of Mexico. He always had it at deer camp. He took a lot of military men hunting and he usually had a pot of beans cooking their first day there. Instead of a serrano pepper he would put in a few whole chili pequines. Him, my brother and I would always anticipate the reaction of the first recipient of one of those peppers. When looking for one make damn sure the inside is glazed as the clay has lead in it. I hear ingesting to much lead turns you into a democrat. BP...
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I much prefer salt pork (fatback) over ham or ham hocks. miles
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I'm about 20' ASL.
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Used this on Sat. Soaked the beans in water overnight Fri by heating to 'pretty warm', covered and let sit until Sat about noon. Added all the rest and a smoked ham bone (proximal end of the femur and the acetabulum). Is that a shank end? Cooked at a high simmer until about 6 PM. Made cornbread and was very good. The ham was done locally and seemed to be a bit heavy on the smoke, but good. Finished the leftovers for dinner last night and seemed mellower and mo betta. Here's the recipe I've used:
1# (2 C) pintos 2-15 oz cans chicken broth 1 large onion, minced 1 jalapeno, chopped 1/2 C green salsa 1 t cumin 1/2 t black pepper.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli
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Had Pintos, cornbread and honey for supper a few minutes ago.
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