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Never had a 25-06, but would probably just go with 110's in my 270.
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Boy, talk about a thread resurrection! This baby is over ten years old.
Only a fool would sell an accurate .30-06
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It's the Big Squeeze of threads.
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To me it is still, after all these years, a silly moot question.
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A thread to learn from with both Billy Tibbe and Safaricon spouting their "wisdom"
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Well if you like the .270 better than the 25-06 you should love the 35 Whelen even more. whelennut
I like to do my hunting BEFORE I pull the trigger! There is only one kind of dead, but there are many different kinds of wounded.
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Well if you like the .270 better than the 25-06 you should love the 35 Whelen even more. whelennut I wonder what T W would have come up with in a... 270 Whelen? Maybe similar to 270 wby? Jerry
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Aside from any "which is best?" argument. The 25 kills beyond it paper definitions.
On a side note, if I were to belive in magic, and I do not, I will say from my 25 yrs of killing with the 257 Roy it is as close to magic as I've seen. Somehow it kills critters deader and faster all in spectacular fashion. One of which was a massive,alfalfa fed cow elk shot at about 220 hit through the lungs that just melted. Via speer 100 gr. Hot cor.
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Years ago I went elk hunting just outside of Steamboat Springs Colorado. We were able to buy our way onto some private land to hunt elk. The rancher was 5th generation. He used a Ruger 77 in 25-06. I was suprised by that and his response was that "If you hit em right it doesn't matter what you hit em with. IF you hit em wrong it doesn't matter what you hit em with either."
I like to do my hunting BEFORE I pull the trigger! There is only one kind of dead, but there are many different kinds of wounded.
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Yup - they both have their purpose, and they have pretty significant overlap.
In any case they are both essentially dead calibers with their 10" twists. Eventually other calibers ( 6mm, 6.5) with their tighter twists and more aero bullets are going to surpass these old standbys in the market place. The marginal stabilization that the 10" twist provides was necessary when bullet construction wasn't as sophisticated as today.
The 6.5'06 and similar 6.5-.270 ( aka 6.5 Brenneke ) comes to mind for comparison. Numerous SA 6.5s out there also competing for attention. This path was paved by the 6.5x55 Swede
The interesting thing is that neither the .257 or .277 caliber has a successful chambering based upon the .308 case. Cats yes, the older .257 Roberts, but no .25-08 or a 6.8x51 - Yet
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The interesting thing is that neither the .257 or .277 caliber has a successful chambering based upon the .308 case. Cats yes, the older .257 Roberts, but no .25-08 or a 6.8x51 - Yet
What about the Souper? You can get commercial dies for it readily...
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David_Walter: If you are (or were, 11 years ago?) contemplating buying/Hunting with one or the other of these calibers - I recommend you buy one of each! I own a pair of Rifles in caliber 25/06 Remington and several Rifles in caliber 270 Winchester and I have owned a "back up" Rifle in 270 Winchester Short Magnum - although I have not as yet Hunted with this 270 WSM. With today's choices in bullets and powders BOTH of the calibers you are inquiring about are superb choices for medium game. Yeah, buy one (at least!) of each. Sorry it took me 11 years to answer your inquiry. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
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A thread to learn from with both Billy Tibbe and Safaricon spouting their "wisdom" Indeed. The idiot who resurrected this idiotic thread is inviting a virtual horse-whipping, in my estimation.
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The only difference I ever noticed was I never owned a 25-06
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This path was paved by the 6.5x55 Swede
The interesting thing is that neither the .257 or .277 caliber has a successful chambering based upon the .308 case. The Swede is not at its best in a S A. It really needs a std. or 06 lenght. What's to be gained by a 25-08 or 27-08? Jerry edit: spell check
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Dennis Neil and I were at Sportsman's Whorehouse here in Anchorage shortly after it opened. A counter kid was extolling the virtues of the 6.8SPC. Dennis told him he was right and they were going to start loading the 6.8-06 and it was going to be very popular!
Counter Wizard believed him, too.
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I've only hunted with one guy in my life that has shot a 25-06. He wounded more deer with it than most people ever kill. He wounded just as many after he got a 30-06. So I found out it wasn't the calibers fault.
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I have never seen a 140, 150 or 160 grain bullet in 25 caliber.
That said I think the 25-06 will fulfill the mission for what most of us will ever need done
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The interesting thing is that neither the .257 or .277 caliber has a successful chambering based upon the .308 case. What's to be gained by a 25-08 or 27-08? Jerry edit: spell check In the case of the .25-08 it fits right in the middle between a .250-3000, or the AI version, and the .257 Roberts. A wide niche to Fill My eldest son's birthday is 25 August, so I'm entitled to my loonyism in this case. As for the 6.8x51 - lots of bullets are designed for .270 Win, and the new 6.8 SPC, so Why Not ? wasn't the .270 Redding an improved cat on this caliber & a .308 case ? The 6.5x55 SE frustrates me because of it's slightly larger case diameter ( .480 ") otherwise it could be rechambered to 6.5x270 Brenneke. It's usually chambered in a long action anyways, so ...
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No the 270 Redding was on the 22 hornet case IIRC.sorry I just checked and I was thanking of the 270 Ren.
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