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Need bases and rings suggestions for a Remington long range in 300 win mag. Thanks

I have dozens of beater rifles I am working on at any time.
It is like having a lot of kids, they all get the same kind of socks.

Lately I have been getting Aluminum tactical rings with 6 screws that have a square cross bolt. Burris is a good brand. All the brands are probably all made in the same sweatshops in China. A good brand means someone inspected them and fights with crooked Chinese nationals.

http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=burris+xtreme+tactical+rings

Seekins precision rail and rings. USA made. Very high quality stuff.

Check out Murph'y Precision bases and APA's rings.......not much out there that is stronger or with better quality!

Near Mfg makes great bases for Rem 700's...the are very low and sit "tight" to the action.

www.scopebases.com


Take a look at the Nightforce Ultra-Lite rings.....very nice!!

Looks like everybody prefers the one piece bases. How useful are the moa bases? Is it basically like mounting the scope as close to the barrel as possible?

one piece if you want sloped bases

been using some TPS rings and bases recently myself........excellent quality and reasonable prices

Jeff you need a set of APA's.........

This. Then google how to bed the one piece rail to your receiver.

20 MOA. rail (1913 mil spec) and rings of your choice: TPS, Burris XTR, Leupold MK4 or Seekins. Use picatinny rings for your picitanny rails. Not Weaver rings: they are a sloppy fit (generally)...

I think the best value is Warne picatinny rails and TPS aluminum or steel rings. Both made in the USA and both companies have great customer service. Warne's is really exemplary.

If you want to spend more there are lots of good choices.

Here is some info I compiled when looking for the lowest base height. Too often proper cheek weld is lost with a Picatinny rail and a stock w/o adj. comb.

Here is my summary.

Rings (larger measurement included with each is the distance to ocular center from top of P-rail)
TPS Ultra Low 30mm TSR/TSRW/HRT 0.82” or .23”
Seekins Precision 30mm Low 0.82 or .23”
Seekins Precision 1” Low 0.75 or .25”
Badger Ordinance 30mm Std 0.823 or .233”
Warne Maxima QD 30mm Low 0.83 or .25” (Weaver style)
Leupold Mark 4 Rings 30mm Med 0.84 or .25”
Leupold QRW 30mm Low .77” or .18”
Leupold QRW 1” Super Low .55 or .05” (Weaver style)
Leupold QRW 1” Low .65 or .15” (Weaver style)
Night Force rings 30mm Low 0.885 or .295”
LaRue 0.85 or .26”
Near Mfg. ???????

Bases for Rem. 700 SA
Seekins 20MOA Base on a Remington use .44” for rear height or .29” for front height
McCann Industries is also .44” Rear; .29” Front (they only make a 20MOA base)(steel).
Badger Ordinance OMOA Rem 700 SA Rear .41; Front .31"
LaRue 0MOA .43" Rear (Aluminum)
LaRue 20MOA .46" Rear (Aluminum)
Warne M673SA R= .400; F=.288 (Steel)
Warne M673-20SA R= .400; F=.248 (Steel)

This is the current setup that I have used for 6,500 rounds on a 1998 Rem 700 LTR .308 w/ Mark 4 M1 3.5-10x40mm. This has served me very well and has taken quite a bit of abuse.
Leupold QR R .34”; F .23”
Leupold QR 30mm rings .06”
Total = .40” or .99”(OC)

Lowest Picatinny Rail setup with 30mm P-Rail rings…
TPS Ultra Low 30mm TSR/TSRW/HRT 0.82” or .23” or Seekins Precision 30mm Low 0.82 or .23” +
Warne M673SA R= .400; F=.288 (Steel) or Warne M673-20SA R= .400; F=.248 (Steel)
Total= .63” or 1.22”

Lowest Picatinny Rail setup with 1” P-Rail rings…
Seekins Precision 1” Low 0.75 or .25” + Warne M673SA R= .400; F=.288 (Steel) or Warne M673-20SA R= .400; F=.248 (Steel)
Total= .65” or 1.15” (OC)

Lowest Picatinny Rail setup with 30mm Weaver rings…
Leupold QRW 30mm Low .77” or .18” + Warne M673SA R= .400; F=.288 (Steel) or Warne M673-20SA R= .400; F=.248 (Steel)
Total = .58” or 1.17” (OC)

Lowest Picatinny Rail setup with 1” Weaver rings…
Leupold QRW 1” Super Low .55 or .05” (Weaver style) + Warne M673SA R= .400; F=.288 (Steel) or Warne M673-20SA R= .400; F=.248 (Steel)
Total = .45” or .95” (OC)



Useful Info
15 millimeters = 0.590551181 inches

X2 on bedding the rail.

Ackley:

Had a set.....really didn't turn me on. Also tried set of ARC M10's.......I'll stick with Seekins or Nightforce!!

Jeff i'm surprised you did't like them, top cap looks like NF and the lows being .750 and being able to pick up a 4 runner with them, I prefer the way they fasten to the rail better than that big nut on my last set of NF!

A few years ago i was working on a jet engine starter torque control board design on an electronics bench and on the bench next to me was a lunch buddy with small but funded research project for missile course correction. Bolted to the top of the test fixture was a Weaver rail, weaver rings and a Burris Signature scope. Every couple weeks this thing was packed up and sent from General Dynamics Redmond WA to Picatinny Arsenal N.J.

I always thought is was funny we were charging Picatinny to send them a Weaver rail.

Its not that I hated them, but just did not see any benefit from switching from the 2 brands that I've used for years. Nothing wrong with the APA rings just sticking with what I'm used to thats all. Now the ARC M10 rings were big, gawdy, and I just did not like their design at all!!

Seekins

I posted this on the other thread that I was asking about rifles but this thread seems to be an appropriate fit so I am re-posting here.

It seems that most long range rigs have the picatinny rails & tactical rings. I’m not sure what that would do for me over the other base & ring combo’s I have used in the past.

On my .338 I have Warne steel bases and Burris signature zee rings. This combo has been rock solid for me for the past 15 yrs. My .257 Roberts has Burris signature dual dovetails and that has never let me down the same length of time. The .270 has the Talley light weights and I have had no issues. I’m open to try something else if there are better options but the Warne steel bases w/Burris Signature zee rings sure has held POI over many a flight to and back from a hunt, and being hauled in scabbards during a hunt and in a back pack now that I have started back pack hunting some.

I plan to use a Zeiss Conquest HD5 3-15x42mm with RZ800 reticle on my 700 in 7mm SAUM. So why the rail system for long range hunting rifles over the traditional hunting type bases & rings.

I have a derivation out there:
http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/10276664/1

That suggests scope base screws may shake loose if oil gets between the base and the receiver.

Fully half the shooters I help at the range, their problem is loose base screws.

What does it all mean?
It is not the brand of rings and bases that matter as much as liquids under the bases or on the screws.

After 15 years, someone could apply oil to a gun as a rust preventative, it seeps under a scope base, and the rifle shoots loose that year.

CM, thanks for the link. Yours is an interesting analysis. I had never considered oil getting between the base and receiver as leading to a loose base.