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They are even in west Texas now. From the desert in the West to the lowland swamps in the east.
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From the article: Just to stabilize Texas' feral hog population would require removing about 70 percent of the population over a single year and continuing that level of population reduction for multiple years, Bodenchuk said.
"Right now," he said, "we're not even taking half that number."
True statement. Pretty disturbing. But that ratio fits anywhere there are feral hogs.
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The TV shouldn't have canceled American Hoggers.
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The TV shouldn't have canceled American Hoggers. While I'd catch that show occasionally for laughs, and am even friends with one of permanent cast members, it was only entertainment... 
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But go try and hunt some and the hand comes out demanding money.
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Don't the outfitters actually charge folks to come out there and kill these pests? It seems like there ought to be some give and take by the property owners. If they really want to get rid of these things, why not give people more access to the pigs? Cut the prices to hunt on private property out there way back, and you'll get more hunters looking to help with the problem. Seems like a win/win. They could see reductions in the pig numbers, and still generate modest trespass fees to let others hunt.
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Hunting isn't going solve anything.
In fact, it can make hogs go nocturnal.
The only proven way to significantly reduce population is by catching the entire sounder with a large trapping system, or to snare in areas that have net wire fences where hogs continually traverse.
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The TV shouldn't have canceled American Hoggers. While I'd catch that show occasionally for laughs, and am even friends with one of permanent cast members, it was only entertainment... Please don't tell me Mountain Monsters ain't real.
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I've got a friend in the hill country who owns several thousand acres. Every time I go see him we have a blast chasing and killing hogs on his place but the population continues to grow. He's constantly bombarded by request from people to "help" him control them. He's not opposed to folks hunting his land but he's afraid someone will get hurt and sue him.
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They're not losing it bad enough or they wouldn't charge so much for hunters to come kill them.
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Indeed. FWIW, there is a significant financial incentive for motivated land owners to do so. I know one rancher near Llano who is making almost as much money off feral hogs as he is off his cattle.
He traps them using one of those falling corral gizmos, shoots the old and young, then loads the weaner size pigs into his 5th wheel and hauls them to the slaughterhouse. They get slaughtered per FDA regs, and he sells the meat in farmer's markets in the Austin area for top dollar as Organic Free Range Pork.
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The take away is that Texas cannot hunt its way out of this problem. Blaming landowners for trying to compensate for some of the financial damage that hogs inflict on their property is pointless and unfair.
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I don't have any sympathy for them if they won't allow hunting for free or for a very minimal price. The argument that they might get sued doesn't hold much water because they can easily purchase liability insurance if they don't already have it (just like virtually every hunting club). Additionally, in most states, the duties of a landowner who is allows access to property for free is to advise of known risks. I don't buy the argument that they can't allow hunting for free for fear of injuries.
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Luckily Idaho so far has only 1 very small population of them. They were illegally planted here about 8 or 10 years ago and so far haven't spread. The IDFG wants them gone but as you all know, that's not easy.
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Indeed. FWIW, there is a significant financial incentive for motivated land owners to do so. I know one rancher near Llano who is making almost as much money off feral hogs as he is off his cattle.
He traps them using one of those falling corral gizmos, shoots the old and young, then loads the weaner size pigs into his 5th wheel and hauls them to the slaughterhouse. They get slaughtered per FDA regs, and he sells the meat in farmer's markets in the Austin area for top dollar as Organic Free Range Pork. In the olden days hogs ranged free and were rounded up and driven to market, just like cows.
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I don't have any sympathy for them if they won't allow hunting for free or for a very minimal price. The argument that they might get sued doesn't hold much water because they can easily purchase liability insurance if they don't already have it (just like virtually every hunting club). Additionally, in most states, the duties of a landowner who is allows access to property for free is to advise of known risks. I don't buy the argument that they can't allow hunting for free for fear of injuries.
I doesn't matter if you buy it or not or if they take all the precautions you listed or not. Who in the hell wants to get drug to court every time some clown sprains their leg and runs off to hire some ambulance chasing lawyer. Even if you win every case you lose.
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North Arkansas eliminated them back in he early 50's when free range was canceled. They have come back in some area's from people turning them loose, for one reason or another. South Arkansas did not ever eliminate them as far as I know, most likely from the huge amount of paper company land. You can get rid of them by trapping and hunting if the incentive is enough. My opinion only. miles
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I don't have any sympathy for them if they won't allow hunting for free or for a very minimal price.
Why should they allow hunting for free ? If they have lost money from the damage done by feral hogs then they may as well make money from feral hog hunts on their property. Mike
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I don't have any sympathy for them if they won't allow hunting for free or for a very minimal price. The argument that they might get sued doesn't hold much water because they can easily purchase liability insurance if they don't already have it (just like virtually every hunting club). Additionally, in most states, the duties of a landowner who is allows access to property for free is to advise of known risks. I don't buy the argument that they can't allow hunting for free for fear of injuries.
Was someone asking for sympathy? You may want to brush up on your liability laws as well. A simple release of liability does not stop anyone from getting sued. As has been stated by many folks, hunting isn't putting a dent in feral hogs.
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