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I've this burning desire for a Weatherby cartridge lately. I'm currently tied between these two, with a little thought also given to the 7mm. Mostly a deer rifle, hopefully a plains game rifle in the future (where it'd be accompanied by a 375 H&H). I'd love any input on this decision regarding pros and cons. I load my own, so factory ammo availability isn't an issue.
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You could not run fast enough to give me one. 7 mmRM save your self the fluff
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No experience with the 270 or 7mm versions, but the 257 is one of those cartridges that has to be used to be believed. The on-paper ballistics are great, but what it does on game is flat out amazing. It's like hitting a deer with a bolt of lightning. I know the BC of 25cal bullets isn't the greatest, but for point and shoot hunting, it's hard to find a flatter shooting, light recoiling cartridge out to 4-500yds.
My other Wby is a 240. Very fun cartridge, just wish mine had a fast twist barrel. Since I already have a couple of 7RMs, I don't know that I'd have any interest in the big 7Wby.
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Started out with a 257 Vanguard S2 used it a year and gave it to my younger brother. I am working on a Mark V 270 SS made in the Saco Maine plant, will use that for greenfield use next year with 130 grain reloads. I also use a 7mm Rem mag Sako and I really like both cartridges . I do like 3300+ out of those 130 grain 270's.
I had a 7mm Weatherby for a few years and no longer own it.
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I have a .270 Wby, and absolutely love it. I have only killed 2 deer with it (a whitetail and a mulie), but both deer were absolutely flattened. It's my idea of a great longer range deer rifle, which is exactly what I've used mine for, and I hope to use it more in the future.
Although, I've also always wanted a .257, if the Vanguards came with a 26" barrel, I'd have one, too!
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I have them all. I like them all---a lot! But my fave is my ultralightweight 270 Bee
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I have them all. I like them all---a lot! But my fave is my ultralightweight 270 Bee Seeing pics like that pushes me towards the UL. I keep reading that they don't shoot then something like this pops up. I could be swayed to get one, easily.
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the 7mm has a better selection of pills,and better coefficient
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I have them all. I like them all---a lot! But my fave is my ultralightweight 270 Bee Seeing pics like that pushes me towards the UL. I keep reading that they don't shoot then something like this pops up. I could be swayed to get one, easily. The problematic ones are the 300 bee in the Ultralightweights
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What's a real-world weight on the ULs?
Anything special to watch out for?
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I have them all. I like them all---a lot! But my fave is my ultralightweight 270 Bee Seeing pics like that pushes me towards the UL. I keep reading that they don't shoot then something like this pops up. I could be swayed to get one, easily. The problematic ones are the 300 bee in the Ultralightweights Is it that they really don't shoot or people can't shoot them?
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My experience has been that the larger the hole in the barrel, the less accurately the ULW's will shoot, because the barrel won't be as stiff.
The worst-shooting ULW I've encountered was a .338-06, which wouldn't put any load into much less than 2 inches for 3-shot groups at 100 yards. The most accurate was a .240 Weatherby, which was super-accurate. But I've never shot one in any caliber smaller than .240.
The ULW's in any Weatherby chambering above .240 are built on the full-size Mark V action, not the small action, and usually weigh 8+ pounds scoped. Due to the weight they're not particularly hard to shoot.
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By chance did the 240 have a 24 inch barrel? Wonder if the shorter length helped stiffen it up?
I have always liked the UL in 257 or 270 and think theby would make a great deer and Antelope rifle, if they would shoot well. A 240 in the same setup would be equally as nice.
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The 257 I had in the same chassis was also a great shooter.
Anything 30 and over can be problematic
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I would suggest started with the .257... its a rock star and it is available in the S2 for under $600. Its a great way to get started shooting Weatherby calibers. I have only owned one Mk V, but about a dozen or so Vanguards. The Vanguards are not as nice, but they sure do shoot and they work great for me.
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I would like a .257 but Mark V's are out of my price range currently and the Vanguards only have a 24" barrel. If I'm going to have a .257 Weatherby mag it will have a 26" barrel. The .270 Weatherby doesn't happen for me.
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Buy both.
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Wouldn't mind having a .257 Wtby. Currently have 3 .270 Wtby.'s (Ruger No. 1, Winchester 70 and a Mark V Accumark) The Winchester is either gonna get rebarreled to a .257 Wtby or sold.
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Buy both. Sound advice;I did.
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Buy both. Sound advice;I did. That is my usual MO, however the screaming little mini-me expected in the next 5 weeks limits that norm a bit.
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