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Buy your own land and start your own club. Then you can decide how the camp dynamic goes.
Otherwise learn how to be tolerant and pick your battles. The people and issues soon work themselves out.
We've had similar issues in our deer shack and seen the behavior and groups turn over a few times in my Hunting career.
Of course it helps to be the land owner and deer shack owner too. ;-)
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Other than that, How was the show Mrs. Lincoln?
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Not sure why you would ever be in a club with jerks? No choice on who joined?
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It's not like you know they're jerks when they get in. Sometimes it takes a while for that to come out.
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Solo is the best way to fly.....
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I figure I'm the biggest jerk [bleep] that hunts with me either on my leash or my land and as I'm sitting here with a broken leg they are all getting even with me by filling my wood stove or bothering me by stopping by and visiting some bring whiskey some just drink it ,but I'm grateful they stop by. I hope I can get even
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Helps to hunt with others of like mind...
Makes these above issues non issues.
Tough to find enough folks to do a large parcel, that think the same though.
We have 8 hunters currently. About 1600 acres. 2 of those shoot anything... but have actually rarely hurt the herd dynamics. There are 3 more that pretty much fly right side up.
The rest of us are like some mentioned... we rarely shoot a good buck. By choice. The buck I shot this year would have won a big buck contest, though I despise record books and contests and never enter after one record entry left me with a bitter taste...
Point is, hunt with like minded folks, and you'll do much better.
Life is to short generally speaking.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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Depends how good the hunting is and if he owns the land. Scott, Shouldn't your first picture in your signature line be captioned: Binocular in the singular?
By the way, in case you missed it, Jeremiah was a bullfrog.
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We have 8 hunters currently. About 1600 acres. 2 of those shoot anything... but have actually rarely hurt the herd dynamics. There are 3 more that pretty much fly right side up.
Why cant people shoot what they want? is this deer farming? every deer is a trophy and you take what you want.
Other than that, How was the show Mrs. Lincoln?
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Its grocery shopping for me, and I've never asked for seconds for anything cooked by someone else.
Everyone has his reason to hunt.....
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We have 8 hunters currently. About 1600 acres. 2 of those shoot anything... but have actually rarely hurt the herd dynamics. There are 3 more that pretty much fly right side up.
Why cant people shoot what they want? is this deer farming? every deer is a trophy and you take what you want. We have different goals. I would not hunt with you evidently. The problem is, we raise cattle and with that, NO one, inlcuding the couple we have that hunt, would keep defective cattle/cows/bulls/runts etc... That just how we do the deer too.... there is NO question of you shooting 4 deer a year here. I can shoot my 4 deer within 1 hour or less of opening morning usually if I just wanted to shoot. But we try to get the inferior bucks out, manage numbers of does and let the non inferior bucks, age, spread genes and get larger... On the farm we never butchered the young promising bulls after they were proven and were a cuople of years old either.... So the couple on the lease that we have a bit of an issue with, could shoot a couple of does like we do, and a couple of cull bucks or even a cull and an old GOOD buck, and play the game. Nope they shoot, for whatever reason, the bucks that have great potential, but should breed a few more years and get larger.... I've no issues with those that shoot whatever they want as they see it typically... I just don't want to hunt with a brown down group. I may have to at home eventually, land is selling around us and could ruin a management program I"ve had in effect since the 80s.... and if so it will mean going from seeing 130-140 inch bucks almost every day of a 3.5 month long season, to having to shoot a legal buck again when you see them if you want any meat. Which in reality means I won't shoot a thing if neighbors come ruin it and run it back to what it used to be, I'll just take what I can smartly take off the lease property. Yes every deer is a trophy in some form or fashion. I have a doe shoulder mount due to how hard that one particular one was to target and kill....
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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My deer farming comment is aimed at big differences in Texas and Minnesota hunting.
We had a beef farm (we now rent it) and we managed our herd genetics, but deer were not a cash crop.
There is lots of public land in MN and people can hunt it or get permission on private property. Leasing isn't common here.
Its fine to practice QDM, but the state owns the deer in MN, there are no high fences, no deer baiting, we don't charge my guests to hunt other than asking for help with property maintenance one afternoon a year. They can harvest whatever they want in legal fair chase hunt. It is really luck of the draw hunting to see what comes out to you on the two weekend of the year for the one tag you get. Lord knows the timber wolves and snow are factors to contend with so we dont see herds of deer coming out to spots.
The rub I have with Texas hunting, is it seems like you have to pay high lease rates and people impose lots of restrictions on harvest. If you pay $2000 for a deer hunt, I would expect big antlers too. The view from a Texas outsider is Texas deer hunting is becoming the sport of kings.
There are a lot of new & young hunter that we need to recruit to keep our sport alive and most can't afford the lease price tag. Thats why I let guys with young kids hunt my place with a sweat equity price tag so they know the value & burden of property ownership and I let them take what they want.
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Other than that, How was the show Mrs. Lincoln?
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