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srwshooter ,
straight out of the box- nef's don't even make good walking sticks.
like i said;
you can't make chicken soup from chicken poop!!!

This is an out of the box Ruger at 200 yards, I think the group spacing is my fault. Let us see what the NEF can do Swamper... Oh and I have other Rugers that shoot as well out of the box.

maybe swampy is getting his weekly lesson from an "experienced shooter". LOL

http://www.backcountryjournal.com/h&r1871firearmsfactorytour.htm

The big problem with Rugers is that sometimes (rarely)you'll get one that shoots OK. Most shoot about 3 to 4 inches at 100 yards. NEFs almost always shoot MOA or better. Personally I would choose the NEF over a Ruger even if the price were the same. For whatever reason the only Ruger longgun that isn't too bad is the 10-22.

http://www.gun-tests.com/performance/feb97money.html

What are you smoking down there in the Swamp?

well, i'm going to have to agree with swampy on the rugers, i've seen alot of them sent back. but mainly the light barreled rifles.

I love Ruger single action revolvers and I have a bunch of them. Remington and NEF are the brands I look too for a longgun.

Still waiting to see the proof on NEF proofing their guns.

Have owned 6 Rugers - worst I EVER saw was 1.5 inches.

I don't doubt that NEF proofs their guns. They are affiliated with Marlin who also proofs every gun. Of course, so do Winchester, Remington, Savage, and, yes, even Ruger. I would venture that Ruger has done as much and probably more when it comes to pressure testing their arms than do most manufacturers. Evidence of proof firing can be found on virtually any factory rifle in the form of the proof mark located on the barrel just forward of the receiver.

Proof was provided, watch the video.

"Of course, so do Winchester, Remington, Savage, and, yes, even Ruger."

Actually they just proof a sample, which is typical of modern quality assurance.

Trusting folks, these then. Thankfully we don't live in litigious times or some of these same folks would be eaten alive. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Funny, now that I think of it, even my revolvers on which I don't see proof marks have had carbon "burn" marks on the cylinders when they arrived "new in box." And the barrels were no dirtier than the barrel on any new rifle I have bought (which have always looked like they would have benefitted from an oily patch before being shipped.)

But thanks for enlightening me and, I'm sure, others of our ignorance about these "facts." It is truly nice to know that there are such high quality hunting tools being made so cheaply right in this country (never mind the obviously false rumor that the receivers are coming out of China). I will certainly let my friends know that they really ought to be using rifles which don't eject empty cases.......like any real hunter and marksman does. Matter of fact, Swampguy, you might want to book a hunt with one of these fellows. Or perhaps a hunt for brownies might suggest a more reliable weapon.

I'd use an NEF in the proper caliber for anything that can be legaly hunted in the world. I'd step up for Cape Buffalo with my .45-70 in a heartbeat. Any tool that functions exactly the way it's supposed to every time is pretty reliable in my book.

Here's a .30-30 with walnut stock, cut checkering, and a Leupold Rifleman. Weight 7 lbs...cost about $400.00.

Shoots a tad over MOA with Winchester factory ammo. I haven't worked up a load for it yet.

Looks like NEF has released the .45 Colt with the 20" barrel.

http://www.hr1871.com/Firearms/Rifles/buffalo.aspx

This guy sounds like the reincarnation of LEE 24. IMO

If LEE 24 thought the Handi Rifle was a great shooting bargin, then maybe he is pretty smart.

Lee had his moments.

I don't think it was the topic so much as it was the dogmatic presentation.......

Selling someone on the merits of an item is like a ball game; if all you do is defend it, you still don't win. And stepping on others to appear taller is a very weak offense.

I know some people find it offensive when others won't waffle and beat around the bush. Elmer Keith and Jeff Cooper were offensive to some folks because they knew what they were talking about and wouldn't sugar coat things.

I've got no problem with having things straight up. The problem comes when one tries to sell their opinions in that way when they obviously lack the breadth of experience that some of the more notable folks have. Saying things straight and trying to advance a cause by putting other things down are two different things. If your argument can't stand tall on its own merits, perhaps it doesn't stand all that tall. I'm sure even Cooper and Keith understood the dangers of the broad brush.